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  Topic Name: Flagstaff to the Muggy Rim AZT Mud and Pavement Reply #20 on: August 12, 2009, 11:20:50 AM
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2009, 11:20:50 AM »

AZT reroute!
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  Topic Name: Flagstaff to the Muggy Rim AZT Mud and Pavement Reply #21 on: August 13, 2009, 04:16:23 AM
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2009, 04:16:23 AM »

AZT reroute!

Not a reroute just another option. As there is no official bike route riders have to come up with their own plan of action as to how to deal with wilderness detours.

As for myself on the two AZT trips I have done I did try to stay as close to the official trail as possible and also try to return the the trail as soon as and as often as possible. And while this has taken me to some awesome places it doesn't appeal to everyone.

There are numerous options along the way some times you can stay on dirt others tend to put us on pavement. While there is no way to do a full AZT trip with out pavement I think most bikepackers will want to avoid it. But staying off pavement and on dirt while at the same time avoiding the wilderness passages can make for a convoluted route.

Obviously we must all make our own choices along the way, and that starts in the planning process. I am glad that I stuck to the trail as much as I could when I did my trips however convoluted the route looked on paper. But it seems like a lot of riders would be more interested in a more straight forward route with good trail and not as concerned with what is officially a hikers route.

In the past I have been against the idea of people calling a dirt road the AZT to me it seemed that if you didn't at least try to ride the single track then you were not doing the AZT but perhaps a dirt road tour close to the trail. Again everyone will have to make their own choices and there are lots of options and the Black Canyon option could be a good one.
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  Topic Name: Flagstaff to the Muggy Rim AZT Mud and Pavement Reply #22 on: August 09, 2012, 03:33:32 PM
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2012, 03:33:32 PM »

Researching a route using Cabin Loop with some Rim Trails. Found this that might help anyone: http://www.gpsjoe.net/resources/Rim%20Trails.pdf
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  Topic Name: Flagstaff to the Muggy Rim AZT Mud and Pavement Reply #23 on: April 06, 2015, 01:43:17 PM
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2015, 01:43:17 PM »


Anybody have .GPX for a better route from Pheonix to Flag.  The race route seems dominated by road and HAB riding....Huh?  Maybe that is just the way people remember it?
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  Topic Name: Flagstaff to the Muggy Rim AZT Mud and Pavement Reply #24 on: April 06, 2015, 02:53:31 PM
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2015, 02:53:31 PM »

The Black Canyon trail west of I-17 from NW PHx most of the way to Flag. From there it's possible to link in with the Coco Loop and thus Sedona and Flag. I rode the opposite way http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/bikepacking/flagstone-lightened-aka-an-azt-bct-combo-ride/

 
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  Topic Name: Flagstaff to the Muggy Rim AZT Mud and Pavement Reply #25 on: April 07, 2015, 01:48:20 PM
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2015, 01:48:20 PM »

Thanks for the trip report.  That really does look like a much more promising route with much more single track and very little pavement.  Do you have more details on the route?  I tried to follow it from you posts, but couldn't really.  For instance there is no detail how you got over to Superior from end of the BCT, or the forest roads from Sedona to start of BCT. 

Any info would be appreciated.  Also, how are the trail conditions in Flagstaff at the moment?

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  Topic Name: Flagstaff to the Muggy Rim AZT Mud and Pavement Reply #26 on: April 07, 2015, 04:17:26 PM
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2015, 04:17:26 PM »

Kevin shot you an email with the track from my trip.

One thing I should add. There may well be enough new BCT to get you past my access point. Not sure where it ends now, but after  couple of winter of trail work its worth checking out.

Flag is still looking good.
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