Scrapping under seat pack in favor of pannier rack?

[bmike-vt]

They could have called them 'Epic'. I mean the forced Revelate to change his name.

Porcelain Rocket has had the sway covered longer than The big Spesh

[Hayduke]

I don't really notice my seat post bag swaying, but I load it with my sleep system and shelter. I really like that the dry bag comes off, it makes it easy to stuff all the fluffy's haha and I can also stuff and unstuff my sleeping bag under the tarp from the pad in the rain.

I tried the sleep system in the Sweetroll, but it doesn't come off easily and I felt like I was wrestling my bike and my sleeping bag. I suppose I could have used a compression stuff sack, but stuff sacks inside of dry bags come right out of The Dept. Of Redundancy Dept. So the Sweetroll gets overflow chow, insulating layers, polypropylene hat and gloves and a small sack of random.

I'd like to reduce the bulk of the closed cell pad, but insulated blow up are heavy and i like to lounge around on it against tree's and rocks on breaks :- )

If my tarp is damp I reserve the right to strap it on top of the seat post bag like in the pic  :- ) When the sun starts heating up that dry bag condensation ends up making everything in it damp.

Light Is Right :- )

[eec]

It's so easy to DIY a handlebar harness. I don't know why they are so expensive and people keep buying them.

[flanagaj]

It's so easy to DIY a handlebar harness. I don't know why they are so expensive and people keep buying them.

I have made 2 rolls of my own, but whilst they work well they end up pushing on the brake / gear cables.  Given they just hang off the bars there is no getting away from the fact that it will bounce around when travelling over very rough ground.  I was thinking of an after market bracket that fixes to the bottom of the fork steerer or to the suspension crown that enable you to also fix the roll harness from the bottom of the harness.  This will stop the harness from bouncing around.

[RonK]

No sooner did I switch over to panniers and a rack because of the annoying seat pack sway when I just discover Specialized have brought a pack that addresses the problem.

If you had done your homework, you would have discovered that the swaying issue has long ago been dealt with.

F'rinstance Porcelain Rocket's Mr Fusion bag has a mini-rack that has been widely imitated.

And Bedrock Bags Railwing can be retro-fitted to your current bag.

As can Portland Design Works Bindle Rack.

To name just a few.

[flanagaj]

If you had done your homework, you would have discovered that the swaying issue has long ago been dealt with.

F'rinstance Porcelain Rocket's Mr Fusion bag has a mini-rack that has been widely imitated.

And Bedrock Bags Railwing can be retro-fitted to your current bag.

As can Portland Design Works Bindle Rack.

To name just a few.

I must have been living in a cave as I was totally unaware of that fact.

[eec]

I have made 2 rolls of my own, but whilst they work well they end up pushing on the brake / gear cables.  Given they just hang off the bars there is no getting away from the fact that it will bounce around when travelling over very rough ground.  I was thinking of an after market bracket that fixes to the bottom of the fork steerer or to the suspension crown that enable you to also fix the roll harness from the bottom of the harness.  This will stop the harness from bouncing around.

I took two old hand grips and cut them into about 2-inch sections. I run straps around the bar, both ends into the grip sections, through a hand made harness, then around the dry bag, just like a typical harness would. And then I take the extra strap and pull it up and back towards the bars, and tie them off to short aero bars. The bag is off the brake cables and does not move at all, even over the roughest surface. I'll try to get a picture the next time I have it loaded. But it's super easy and cheap as dirt.

There's also a harness template somewhere in the DIY forum that looks like it works really well.

[Wandering by Bicycle]

To combat the handlebar load swaying, I just use extra straps. I use the Revelate Harness, which with the stiff foam support IMO is the best system around for heavy loads. Strapped in the harness is a Revelate Saltyroll (a Sweetroll without the handlebar mounting points), my tent poles, trekking poles if I'm carrying them, and my tent in a separate drybag. I use two Voile XL straps to cinch the load tight to my handlebars and leave my cables long so they fit between the Saltyroll and the tent drybag. No cable binding or load bouncing over rough trails with this system. Over everything I run a Revelate Pocket and use another strap over that to hold everything firm.