Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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on: May 25, 2013, 09:25:06 PM
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303-biker
Location: Denver, Co.
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Got out and did the first 50 of the Colorado trail route (Denver to Bailey) last week. I wanted to test my newly built rack and it worked great. I know that nobody likes racks but I like my dropper post and wanted to be able get behind the saddle. While I've never ridden with one of the monster seat-bags it seems like getting behind the saddle would be tough and they all seem to attach where the dropper post telescopes so.... I wanted a rack. Why not just buy a seat post rack? I don't like all the leverage on my post, especially a dropper post and especially while jumping the bike. Additionally they are heavy and Iām not sure if they angle up enough to clear my six inches of travel.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 09:44:49 PM
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303-biker
Location: Denver, Co.
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 09:44:49 PM » |
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-I started off with eight feet of 1.5ā aluminum strap. -Cut two 18ā strips leaving five feet for the body of the rack. -Then I heated and bent the five feet into a U shape. -I then notched the middle of the two 18ā strips so that they could interlock. -Then I bent the two interlocking strips so that they formed a X shape. -Drilled a couple holes so that I could bolt it all together and then JB welded it before bolting everything to position.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 09:51:48 PM
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303-biker
Location: Denver, Co.
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 09:51:48 PM » |
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Drilling the holes allowed me to set the angle of the rack so that at max suspension compression the tire just barely cleared the rack and so the dropper post could be brought all the way down.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 10:00:23 PM
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303-biker
Location: Denver, Co.
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 10:00:23 PM » |
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To attach the rack I purchased a seat collar with attachment points for a traditional rack. To accommodate the side to side angle of the rack I used those little cup and cone spacers we all have on our post mounted brakes. In the front I used the shock mount and some handy little aluminum spacers out of the parts bin. Naturally I needed to purchase a longer shoulder bolt for the extra width. Still I was unsure if the rack would contact the shock during suspension travel so I notched the rack to provide better clearance.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #4 on: May 25, 2013, 10:20:41 PM
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303-biker
Location: Denver, Co.
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2013, 10:20:41 PM » |
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After is was all said and done I drilled a bunch of large diameter holes all along the outside for weight reduction and then counter sunk the holes for that finished look. I really went back and forth on the topic of paint vs. raw aluminum but decided to paint it with an industrial KEM4000 white.
So how does it work? Well I'm totally happy; the bike is well balanced, it's easy to get behind the seat and I still feel confident doing drops and techy sections while loaded. Uphill of course it's heavy but it still climbs well and is capable of riding challenging terrain.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 08:23:29 AM
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bicyclehobo
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 08:23:29 AM » |
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wow...good idea, nice design, kick ass follow through, and excellent documenting for the group to take part of your discovery.
The DIY abilities of the people on this board are commendable.
Let us know how it performs over the long haul.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 08:40:03 AM
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12wheels
Bolder Bikepacking Gear
Location: Boulder, CO
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 08:40:03 AM » |
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Very original and impressive. Thanks for sharing
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 11:27:18 AM
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Dr Galactus
Location: Bristol, England
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 11:27:18 AM » |
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That, gets a Excellent work!
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 06:37:49 PM
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303-biker
Location: Denver, Co.
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 06:37:49 PM » |
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thanks for all the feedback everyone. I figure why not share? I know for me designing and planning my setup has been just as much fun as using the thing.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 08:15:59 AM
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bicyclehobo
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 08:15:59 AM » |
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This could actually be a product if you could design it in a way where the shock mount was adjustable.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 02:23:43 PM
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303-biker
Location: Denver, Co.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 02:23:43 PM » |
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This could actually be a product if you could design it in a way where the shock mount was adjustable.
Thanks, you know you're actually not to first to suggest that, maybe I should send it to Blackburn or Topeka? I agree it would be interesting to see how universal it could be made while taking into account all the different frame sizes and designs.
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Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 02:58:23 AM
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Area54
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 02:58:23 AM » |
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Top marks. Very well thought out and executed.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #12 on: May 29, 2013, 12:46:29 PM
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jhl99
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2013, 12:46:29 PM » |
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I like racks.
Regarding making it universal--way back in the mid 1980s, Cannondale made a rear and maybe a front rack. That racks where not welded, but bolted together....
Your rack could be made in a similar fashion to make it more universal... Punch say 5.8 mm dia holes, say every 1/2" on center along the complete perimeter of the 'U' shaped piece. Instead of using the X brace, use common spaces, tapped M5 at both ends, between the legs of the 'U'. Put the spacers where you want (along the 1/2" spaced hole pattern ) and attach through the 'U' frame with M5 hardware.
An oversized hole might need to be added to accomodate the shocking mounting.
*** You could add a set of smaller holes along the bottom edge of the 'U' and cable tie a piece of plastic onto the rack... creating a fender.
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013, 12:56:28 PM
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bicyclehobo
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2013, 12:56:28 PM » |
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My axiom rack [I still have not shed the racks yet] has a 'linkage' that allows some modulation for mounting on different sized frames.
You can see it in this photo at the bottom. I am referring to the 'arms' that are not mounted. They are at the bottom of the photo with a red aluminum part.
It allows some rotation to where dropouts are mounted and the ability to shorten or lengthen the arms to accomodate different size frames, angles, and mount points. They mount up next to the center mount that is currently attached to the frame. The mount was quite sturdy.
I am not saying use these, but you can see how they have solved a 'fit' problem here, and you could adapt this to your rack making it fit a wider variety of rear suspension frames.
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Reply #14 on: May 29, 2013, 07:13:00 PM
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fotooutdoors
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2013, 07:13:00 PM » |
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Curious what it weighs. Any idea? Also, how much weight are you putting on it? Look like a good idea and great execution!
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #15 on: June 06, 2013, 12:45:21 PM
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bicyclehobo
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2013, 12:45:21 PM » |
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How is production coming? When will I see this in a bike shop?
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #16 on: June 09, 2013, 06:58:51 PM
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303-biker
Location: Denver, Co.
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2013, 06:58:51 PM » |
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Bicyclehobo, thanks for the vote of confidence, but no I haven't done a thing with it. Sadly, I've hardly even been riding. I've done three 70 hour weeks at work in a row, which is also why I haven't responded very promptly. I agree with idea of making it adjustable and I had actually started the project with two round tubes (very similar to your picture) which telescoped. I got as far as mounting them, which was really easy as i just used a insulated conduit clamp and the existing bolts, but they just just seemed too week and I thought going with a bigger pipe would cause my thighs to rub so I scraped the idea and went to flat strap.
Fotooutdoors, I did put in on a scale and with all the bolts and the seat post clamp it came in just barely under two pounds. I tested it with somewhere around five to six pounds on it and if anything the rack is overkill, there was absolutely no movement or flex. Perhaps a slightly narrower strap would be strong enough, provided you could weld the x-shape together rather than notching it.
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Reply #17 on: April 14, 2014, 06:39:25 AM
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Bob Loblaw
Location: Denver, CO
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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2014, 06:39:25 AM » |
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I know this thread is ancient, but are there any updates on how this rack has performed?
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Topic Name: Rear rack for my dropper post.
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Reply #18 on: April 14, 2014, 04:01:20 PM
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303-biker
Location: Denver, Co.
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2014, 04:01:20 PM » |
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Hey Bob, thanks for the interest. I wish I could say it's been thoroughly tested over months of abuse but the reality is that I've done a couple trips with it but it has worked almost perfectly! Only down side so far is that it scuffs up the dry sack a bit, hasn't worn through or anything but some paint has rubbed off onto it...
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Reply #19 on: April 16, 2014, 07:37:34 AM
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Bob Loblaw
Location: Denver, CO
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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2014, 07:37:34 AM » |
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Understandable. Thanks for the update. I have a very similar bike (26", 5.5" travel, dropper). I don't need to use the lowest setting on my dropper, but being able to drop to the middle setting would be nice. I'm trying to figure out if I can fit a usable seat bag in the space or if I should build a rack similar to yours.
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