I think the KM does both duties better than the Instigator does...not that you can't bikepack with it but everything about that bike just screams "hooligan" to me!

Same thing I tell all our customers...ride one first and see what you think.


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I'm a HUGE Surly fan (full disclosure - I'm also a shop owner and Surly dealer), and pretty much anything they make is well suited for bikepacking and adventure riding. The Instigator is one helluva shredder, but I'm wondering if a Karate Monkey might be a better choice for what you're looking for.

That being said, I have a 1x1 with the 26"x2.8" Dirt Wizards (same as the Instigator) and those things rip!!!

I was gonna say - toothpaste has always worked on my watches that have scratched faces...probably do the same for the GPS.

Thanks for the replies. I ended up ordering the 30, as the size seemed to be a bit more appropriate for cycling.

So I'm about to pull the trigger on a new GPS...and it's down to either the GPSMap 64s or the eTrex 30. Here's the comparison direct from Garmin's website...there's not a lot of difference between the two. The biggest that I see is the battery life (16hrs for the 64s and 25hrs for the eTrex)...otherwise they seem pretty darn similar with only differences that wouldn't really be noticed by me. The storage is a bit more on the 64s, but that's easily equaled out with an SD card.

Thoughts? I'm leaning towards the eTrex 30 right now.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/catalog/product/compareResult.ep?compareProduct=140022&compareProduct=87774

Sweet, thanks for the pictures!!

I've got an older Pugs and am wanting to add two Anything Cages to it. My fork has no mounts, so I need to strap the cage to it. I know Salsa "built in" that feature with the original Anything Cage, but am unsure about the new HD.

Anyone have any insight on this? Do ya own one?

Thanks!

Sweet, thank you! I'll keep you on my list!


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Looking for a small Pugsley frame/fork to build up for my son. I've got an offset wheelset and most of the other components...just need the frame and fork.

Reply here or via email - andy.grow at gmail dot com

That's it!


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Andy

You've ruled out the Krampus due to lack of suspension, the $120 tires are the deal killer as far as I can tell.

The KM with a Fox fork, mid to light weight tubeless wheels built on quality hubs, xt level drive train and brakes.

The ultimate adventure bike tho would be FS, Lenz Leviathan or Salsa Spearfish or the like.

Are you planning on running gears? I have heard the KM, with horizontal drops, isn't the greatest with gears. Yes it can be done it's just not as simple and straight forward as a vertical dropout. Something to think about. I know a big Surly fan who went with the Salsa El Mar. for that reason.

My .02

Tim

Tim, thanks for the reply. The new Karate Monkey Ops comes all set with gears and front sus Fox fork as you mentioned. I've not heard any issues with it at all.

Okay, here's my first world dilemma. Stick with me here...it's kinda messy but I'll keep it as clear as I can...

I've got a pretty much stock Pugsley with the double-wall Large Marge wheelset with Knards mounted on 'em.

All this crap is stuck in my head as I move away from racing and more towards adventure cycling / bikepacking.

The Pugs is my only mountain bike...but I'm wanting a Karate Monkey Ops (I'm a big Surly fan - also have a Disc Trucker)...

So here's my choices.

First, do I lighten up the Pugs by going to a Marge Lite wheelset? If so, I have two choices - buy new Marge Lite wheelset OR build with new rims and spokes, using current hubs. Or, do I just stick with the stock Large Marges and not worry about losing the couple of pounds?

Second...transform the bike into a KramPugs by adding a Rabbit Hole 29+ wheelset...again, two choices here - buy new Rabbit Hole wheelset OR build with new rims/spokes/hubs (or hubs from Large Marge wheelset).

OR - do I ditch the Rabbit Hole 29+ idea all together and just get a Karate Monkey? I've pretty much ruled out a Krampus due to the lack of suspension.

I really suck at making decisions like these. I can afford to do any / all of the choices, but only wanna spend money where it's gonna actually benefit me in the end.

Thanks everyone for your opinions and thoughts!
Ride safe
Andy