I will add that the Ogre and the Karate Monkey use different tubesets, with the Ogre's being a bit stouter due to it's role as a touring bike. 

I got this from Ben at Surly because I'm in the market for an adventure bike and the only one I can test ride is a Karate Monkey and the Ogre is the one I'm interested in.  Ben did say the ride of one bike is a good representation of the other but the differences do go beyond the extra braze-ons on the Ogre. 

Hope this helps!

I've been into bicycle riding, with varying levels of enthusiasm, since 1995, all of it on hybrid bicycles because I didn't really want a dedicated road bike or mountain bike.  I've been really interested in bikes for the past couple of years and was bored and stumbled onto Salsa's "So Far to Go" video and was fascinated.  Shortly after I found "Ride the Divide" on Netflix and was hooked on the idea of this type of riding. 

I don't see myself bikepacking but I am interested in doing some day rides of this nature and maybe some credit card touring on unpaved paths.