 Topic Name: Bikepacking / Endurance Racing Lights
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on: December 16, 2009, 04:44:13 AM
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DoctorRad
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Just as the sprained ankle which has been delaying my Return To The Saddle has healed enough to ride again, I've gone and twisted the other one, so off the bike for another week or so.
In the meantime, I am thinking again about my prospective light design to have features aimed at Bikepackers and Endurance Racers. I've already thought about having a hub dynamo charging system, so the lights are charged during the day when you're riding above a certain speed.
What other features would you like to see?
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Topic Name: Bikepacking / Endurance Racing Lights
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Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 05:47:01 AM
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bmike-vt
Location: Horgen, Switzerland
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 05:47:01 AM » |
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Why not just let the dynamo drive the lights?
In daylight the unit can recharge GPS, phone, and camera bats.
As to features - assuming dyno powered it needs a standlight for light when stopped.
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Topic Name: Bikepacking / Endurance Racing Lights
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Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 09:19:03 AM
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DoctorRad
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 09:19:03 AM » |
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You might want brighter lights than a dynamo can power, or want to use it off bike when you're camping. Gadget charging would follow pretty simply once the light charging circuit was in place.
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Reply #3 on: December 27, 2009, 02:58:43 AM
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phil_rad
Location: Gelnhausen, Germany
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2009, 02:58:43 AM » |
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You might want brighter lights than a dynamo can power, or want to use it off bike when you're camping. Gadget charging would follow pretty simply once the light charging circuit was in place.
Then I guess you've never seen the Supernova E-3 triple, its plenty bright. |
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Reply #4 on: December 28, 2009, 09:12:49 PM
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scuppy
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2009, 09:12:49 PM » |
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Dyno hub will give you as bright as you can ride without the cops stopping you for having your lights too bright.
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Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010, 04:10:53 PM
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Damnitman
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2010, 04:10:53 PM » |
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http://www.bumm.de/look catalogue-accessories-then ride and charge or e-werk I love my Schmidt SON hub and Supernova E-3, though it would be...cool...to be able to charge stuff during the day...
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Reply #6 on: February 22, 2010, 05:23:20 PM
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sean salach
Location: palmer, ak
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2010, 05:23:20 PM » |
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Are you thinking about making just the light or the dynamo hub as well? If making the hub, design it to be convertible 20mm/15mm/qr, and maybe offer a 135mm option....
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Reply #7 on: February 22, 2010, 08:39:45 PM
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phil_rad
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2010, 08:39:45 PM » |
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That E-werk could solve my problems with charging my camera and gps batteries. Cool!
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Topic Name: Bikepacking / Endurance Racing Lights
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Reply #8 on: February 23, 2010, 04:13:42 AM
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DoctorRad
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2010, 04:13:42 AM » |
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I think the biggest flaw with the E-werk is that it's very easily stolen or vandalised. Overcoming that weakness is quite a challenge, mind you...
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Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010, 05:27:27 AM
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bmike-vt
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010, 05:27:27 AM » |
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I think the biggest flaw with the E-werk is that it's very easily stolen or vandalised. Overcoming that weakness is quite a challenge, mind you...
be quicker to take the whole bike... assuming its not locked, or only cable locked. thief would have to know what to unplug, where, and not damage it. some zip ties and electrical tape would slow that process down. |
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Reply #10 on: February 23, 2010, 06:05:25 AM
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neve_r_est
Location: SE IA
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Reply #11 on: February 27, 2010, 03:33:31 AM
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intheways
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2010, 03:33:31 AM » |
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The Tout-terrain Plug which PW also sells looks pretty cool.
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Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 11:37:17 AM
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wookieone
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 11:37:17 AM » |
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I am interested in the whole Dyno thing, but one thing to consider is the speeds you'll be traveling, my understanding is a dyno needs to be going 5-6 mph to provide even light, I often do things that are much slower, thus less light is needed, but often singletrack is pretty slow. Otherwise it seems like a great idea, albiet a bit costly and specialized. I have been playing with Fenix Led's, pretty sweet lights, very adjustable, light and bright.
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Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 11:49:51 AM
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bmike-vt
Location: Horgen, Switzerland
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 11:49:51 AM » |
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The new LED dynos come on at walking pace... and are bright enough to walk by. The old halogens needed 6-7 mph. The LEDs are like 3-4 mph, and flicker at less. When I ran halogens with my dyno setup (road, not singletrack) - I used to power down 1 of the 2 so that I could get more light, and then flick on my headlamp - this would be while climbing. Never worry about it with the eDelux.
The new dynos with LED on the bike with small LED on the helmet seems like it would work well... but it also depends on how much you plan on moving @ night. I could see a dyno working out well for a TD type route. For a 24 hour race - not so much (not that I race...)
For me its philosophical as well as practical. One could argue that it also pushes you further into 'self supported' when you are generating your own power.
But that is a religious discussion. So I'll leave it.
*note, my dyno and LED experience is limited to rain, snow, and randonneurring events in the northeast on pavement, gravel, and dirt roads. I've limited experience on mild singletrack... but I've heard great things about the Supernova lights set up for MTB.
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