equipment that works the list

[offroute]

Jetboil Sol Ti. I think it's faster than my regular JB. One small fuel can was prolly half spent after 28 uses when I jettisoned it. This was at elevation. Bottom cap cracked, though, so hello REI.

Porcelain Rocket Anything Cage bags. Now, if we could just get some better Anything Cages...  PR frame bag kicked ass, too.

Formula The One brakes. Bring plenty of spare pads; not widely stocked.

Patagonia Nano Puff Pullover. The perfect puffy for bikepacking.

Sugoi shoe covers. My Five Ten Impacts become storm-proof and I don't even know I have them on.

[Bndst]

For the bike:
-BB7s
-anything Chris King or Thomson
-Velocity p35 rims
-shimano bar end shifters/Paul thumbies
-wipperman quick links
-WTB Silverado saddles
-Time ATAC pedals

For the human:
-Marmot outerwear (I'm a small guy; IMO fit is better than other brands)
-Smartwool socks, base layers
-Roasted/salted peanuts
-Cafe Bustelo instant coffee

[Colorado Cool Breeze]

equipment that works   the list
How many people have some bike or camping gear that works without fail.  Most of the things are the latest and greatest, or lightest therefore fastest.  I want to start a list of things that don't let you down in the middle of nowhere.  Things that last for years.  

Revelate Designs innovative gear carrying systems
suntour power thumb shifters
Sram Gripshifters
Dura-Ace 9spd barcons
Rohloff internal geared hub
Schmidt dynohubs
philwood hubs
8 speed Shimano XTR Components.  The 950 series XTR component especially hubs
7-speed XT, 7-speed DX ( Deore-II )
6-8 speed Hyperglide freewheels and cassettes
Surly DingleCog
shamino M 970 bottom bracket
Velo Orange's Grand Cru bottom brackets Square Taper BB
Phil Wood bottom brackets
Shimano square taper bottom brackets
mid-high-end square-taper Shimano and SunTour cranks
Sugino's Double Cranks
SRAM chains, connecting link
Time Atac clipless pedals
ATAC Aliums
Cane Creek Headsets
chris king headset
Surly Crosscheck Frame
surly karate Monkey frame
Deore 9speed rear derailleur
Tiagra front derailleur
Crank Bros multi-tool.
Brooks saddle
Selle Antatomica saddle
WTB SST saddle
Thomson stems and seatposts
DT Swiss spokes
panaracer rampage 29 tires
Magura HS-33 rim brakes
Kool Stop Eagle II brake pads
Avid bb7 disc brakes
Bontrager Race Lite cages
jandd bags


camp stuff
MSR Whisperlite Int'l (for cold weather)
evernew TI pots
Blue foam pad
3oz homemade windcoat (thru-hiker.com kit
trianga stove
Hilleberg Akto tent
Military issue rain gear
milspec poncho
Osprey Talon 22 pack
moutinsmith lumbar pack
chorme backpack
Source hydration bladders with CamelBack bite valves
LL bean Bigelow day pack
REI synthetic sleeping bag
Patagonia stretch capilene base layers
Pendleton wool shirts.
Icebreaker shirts
Lowe Alpine daypack
Leatherman.

OK, not trying to be negative or argumentative but what is the purpose of this list?

"Equipment that works" ........ For all of bikepacking? Ultra Racing?

I'm sorry, I see no organization, it just appears to be a random list of bike parts and gear, some very old and outdated.
Has anyone ever made a purchase decision based on this list?
Who runs a 7 speed cassette these days.

Chrisx if you're still out there IMO this list needs work.

[pro_out]

OK, not trying to be negative or argumentative but...........

CCB If your still out there, IMO lighten up a bit, It seems that you like things neatly arranged in little boxes. There is tons of great information on this site. Those that want to learn will seek it out. Those that want instant gratification usually do not hang around long anyway. And thats all I got to say about that. Next time I get up that way maybe we can go do a little flyfishing, my second fav sport. Be warned though, my fly box is a mess

[chrisx]

"OK, not trying to be negative or argumentative but what is the purpose of this list? "

It help people select reliable gear.  If you log a lot of miles and find 1 or 2 pieces of gear that worked without fail let us know others might want to explore an isolated area and not worry about a broken bike.

" "Equipment that works" ........ For all of bikepacking? Ultra Racing?"
Racing is differant than exploring.  Sometimes the nearest bike shop is 500 miles away. If you want to explore the edges of the map get some gear that will bring you back.  

"I'm sorry, I see no organization, it just appears to be a random list of bike parts and gear"

Read the entire page not just the first sentence.  People typed in the things they thought provided them with reliable transportation, or kept them warm and dry,  things they trusted.  They rode for many miles and many years and said, "I found something reliable."  I made a list of some of these things.

"some very old and outdated"

Is the newest stuff more reliable?

"Has anyone ever made a purchase decision based on this list?"

yes

"Who runs a 7 speed cassette these days."

With suntour power thumb shifters, (friction shifters), you can use any cassette available when you need one.  Don't think about taking your bike to the top of a hill in your pickup. Think about riding your bike for 6 weeks in a foreign country.  10 speeds are so racers can shift a little more efficiently.  Not so people can ride around longer.  

"Chrisx if you're still out there IMO this list needs work."
Go ride your bike 20,000 miles
let us know if any of your gear lasted that long when your done.

[Colorado Cool Breeze]

OK I stand corrected and apologize if I've offended you Chrisx.
I did not see the value in such a random list of gear but I understand it a bit better now.

[AZTtripper]

OK I stand corrected and apologize if I've offended you Chrisx.
I did not see the value in such a random list of gear but I understand it a bit better now.

I thought this was a good thread with plenty of info, even if it did all come in randomly with no real organization.

CCB it's all good it's great that you want to help make the site better. But not everyone wants to have everything spoon fed to them. Also not everyone is going to have the same style of expressing themselves.

So I made this a sticky a while back and it did seem to get a bit more attention. Chris what do you think? If someone wants to figure a way to organize the list CCB posted as a new thread and we can try that one as the sticky.

[Colorado Cool Breeze]

CCB it's all good it's great that you want to help make the site better. But not everyone wants to have everything spoon fed to them. Also not everyone is going to have the same style of expressing themselves.

From just looking at the forum post counts. The Ultra Racing folder has a 10 to 1 hit ratio over all other topics of bikepacking.net.
Not being a trail racer myself and preferring the recreational side of bikepacking I though I could bring some interest to that side
of our hobby. If my post are coming across as "spoon feeding" or all knowing I must apologize a second time.
My only goal for joining this forum was to share ideas and meet/talk with peeps that like rec bike packing.

[chrisx]

It is hard to know how to arrange things to please everyone, ( is that possible ).  
Is this list long enough that it needs to be arranged alphabetically by bike part?
For me, a list of parts without long explanations attached to them is easier to use than sifting through long explanations as to why people choose one thing or another. A quick reference guide with explanations and discussion in the following pages.

file it where you want it.  

If you are going to Madagascar or Timbuktu or some place nice... .  Where there is no bike shop and replacements may or may not show up in the mail what parts do you want on your bike?¿?  If I am not to lazy or too disorganized I will add them to this list.  

Shortly before I started this list I saw a text on another persons phone.
¨Fed Ex does not recognise that address your card has been refunded.¨
The nearest bike shop to the North was 500 miles away.
The nearest bike shop to the south was 500 miles away.  
He got a ride in a pick up with some bail jumping hippies on there way to Costa Ricca.
I rode up in the mountains and had a good adventure.

I wanted a list of parts that don't end your adventure.

I read the ultra racing forum, but seldom by the same gear as them

[Area54]

But not everyone wants to have everything spoon fed to them.

Agreed, there is some information that should also be earned, by either a little or a lotta hard work. Some people are very protective of their knowledge, because it may have taken them a long time, a lot of sweat and heard work to learn - fully understand when they are reluctant to share or see their valid tech misused or mis-interpreted.

Full props to those that do share for the benefit of others.

[wunnspeed]

Personal knowledge of what works for someone is a great starting place for those that have never done something like this before and need/want to collect gear. Having said that, what "works" for one person in a given situation may not work at all for someone else in the same or another situation. Case in point... if I'd had a my SuperNova dyno light last year on the TDR I could have ridden a lot more in the dark. Sadly, I had another light which was seemingly lighter but in the end, unreliable as it broke and then I carried the weight of the light and batteries for 4500 km for zero sum gain. I'd rather have carried the extra few ounces of something that worked. Hopefully that made sense.

Anyway... my list was back a couple of pages.

[Colorado Cool Breeze]

Agreed, there is some information that should also be earned, by either a little or a lotta hard work.Some people are very protective of their knowledge, because it may have taken them a long time, a lot of sweat and heard work to learn - fully understand when they are reluctant to share or see their valid tech misused or mis-interpreted.

Full props to those that do share for the benefit of others.

Why would some one like that join a forum?
Forums provide a place to meet people with similar interests and share knowledge on that subject.

If you just want to announce race info a Static Website is a much better choice.
If you just want a definition wikipedia.org is the best.
But if you want to talk to peeps and get first hand info you go to a forum.

[Colorado Cool Breeze]

It is hard to know how to arrange things to please everyone, ( is that possible ). 
Is this list long enough that it needs to be arranged alphabetically by bike part?

Chrisx,
Here's my 2 cents.
For me, If I was building a bike to ride to Timbuktu I would start with what frame and fork.
I'd then look at hubs, wheels, tires, brakes. Then drivetrain, handlebars, seat, pedals and finely
racks and bags.

I'd then move on to weather protection, clothing and sleep system. Then riding cloths and off the bike cloths.
Now that I have my list I could look over your list and fill in some of the blanks.

Maybe that was how you originally intended your list to be used?

Honestly only trying to understand and help. -ccb

[gdillon]

I'll put a second vote in on arm warmers/coolers (found on page 3 of this thread), and maybe just revise the item to sleeves.  Best product for all seasons and types of adventures.

I've had a pair of Salsa fleece lined sleeves for almost 10 years and have recently learned the value of some Saucony lycra sleeves found at a running store.  When the Salsas wear out, maybe replace with Ibex?

The only downside to sleeves is that I can't sleep with them on...

[AlasdairMc]

My Terra Nova Laser Comp is by far the best tent I've ever owned. A true four seasons tent, dual skinned at under a kilogram all in, and it packs down tiny when you carry the pole separately.

On the bike, I've been unable to break my DX SPDs having used and abused them for 14 years. The cages are getting a bit loose now, but they've done me incredibly well.

[Blammo]

Wool Jerseys

[Tommi]

Hennessy Expedition A Hammock
Smartwool heavy weight socks.
Vasque waterproof hiking boots.
Garmin GPS62stc
Almost anything from here: www.mec.ca

[12wheels]

Add Darn Tough socks to the list. 

[bruce.b]

White Industries ENO freewheels. 100% reliable.

[chrisx]

Which tent is more reliable than the others?
Which socks are better?
etc
My experience with wool socks...  ..
The higher percent of wool the better.  Medium cushion Smart wool socks last a while. The thinner ones get holes in them to quickly.   If they say 62% wool I don't buy them.  78% seems good.  I got some at 88% wool, which were a little less comfortable, but a little warmer when soaked. 

Wool jerseys are about the same.  The thinest ones wear out to quickly. The thicker ones last for a while. The thin Ice Breaker GT shirt had a short life span.  The thicker Ice Breaker shirts last quite awhile. 

I wonder what the criteria for a tent should be?   Free standing? Light weight?  Storm prof? Anyone get 200 nights out of a tent?