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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking on: September 02, 2009, 09:00:15 PM
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« on: September 02, 2009, 09:00:15 PM »

I've got a race on tap (http://www.parcourdewild.org/pdwblog/) next month that I reckon I can win with some sneaky bike action.  It will also require a ~20 mile portage through a wilderness area.

Two questions ensue:

-Best cheap, quality flat pedal for riding with trail runners and no shin guards?  (I recall the pedal chews I suffered back in my flat pedal days.)
-Any issue with wearing a thinner, more flexible trail runner on platforms?  (I LUV my Sportiva Fireblades.)

I've almost talked myself into a solo hell biking mission, reading Parsons and Dial for inspiration.  Now I just need to decide if the weight savings of a rigid bike is worth the potential loss in rideability.
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 09:26:31 PM
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 09:26:31 PM »

I really like the Wellgo MG1, it uses a DU bushing instead of cartridge bearings, so they're very low maint. and reliable.  The Shimano DX is a very nice pedal as well, but pricey.  The MG1 is very light, uses a magnesium body and is only 60 bucks retail.


The LU-A52 is nice as well.



You might might also want to consider using power straps, by Power Grips.  I doubt these would mess up your shins much if you slipped a pedal.


 




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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 10:04:38 PM
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 10:04:38 PM »

I used the MG1 for, let's see... an AZT 300, a Grand Loop, a few Grand Enchantments.  Light and worked well for me.  I lost some skin on the shins, but IMO the screws are necessary evil.  Gotta keep the feet on the pedals somehow, and you can even 'lift' the pedals up too.

I used trail runners but eventually switched to more substantial shoe.  I was having all sorts of feet issues at the time, and also spending a lot of time laying out trail, so my experience can't really be counted.  I found my feet were hurting more with the trail runners though.  I'm sure you'll be fine given that you'll be used to it enough to endure all the hiking on the rest of the route.
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 10:23:26 PM
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 10:23:26 PM »

Also worth mentioning is FiveTen shoes.   http://www.fiveten.com/

They're the most popular shoe for platform pedals, the soles grip so well some say they feel like they are clipped in. 

Their trail running shoes use the same type of rubber soles that their Freeride(cycling) specific shoes use, so they're going to grip really well when on the pedals. 

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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 06:40:20 AM
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 06:40:20 AM »

Sealed Odyssey "Jim Cielencki" Trail Mix pedals are an even better choice:

http://www.danscomp.com/465131.php?cat=PARTS

Thanks to feedback from those in the know, it's what I recommend for hard off-road platform usage + what I'd use myself for freewheelin'. Robust + good longevity.

The MG-1s are nice, but the pins can be a PITA over the long term as they get jammed with dirt and bashed. Having a pin that screws in from the backside is a lot better. The Trail Mix pedals come in a magnesium version as well if you're really counting grams. All these recs might be more than you want to spend, but see it as an investment in your parts bin for future adventures too.

A lot of the platform cats in Salida ride with trail runners, but an approach-type shoe might be a better choice - again from feedback coming from 24-7 platform users who bikepack.

I ride with customized Power Grips and Suntour XC Pros, but the small platform (even with a good BMX shoe) takes some getting used to. BMX platforms are comfy and turnkey.
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 12:53:36 PM
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 12:53:36 PM »

Thanks for the info, saves me posting the same question again.

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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 08:38:55 PM
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 08:38:55 PM »

http://www.easternbikes.com/products/parts/3

I've had great luck with these...

and with montrail shoes they seem to stick very well...  the plastic seems to be holding up well to 2 k of fixed bag it into rocks techy riding...

The bearings are starting to be rough but are still hanging in there...

about $20 retail and light
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #7 on: September 07, 2009, 01:04:52 AM
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2009, 01:04:52 AM »

the only one's I've used are the sun zuzu's, they are not that great (one bearing, one bushing per side) but haven't failed me yet despite repeated attempts. The mg-1's look nice but you can get zuzu's for like $30.
Stick to your fireblades. For what it's worth I've enjoyed biking in the new patagonia Release and montrail wildwood's (after the death of the 08' hardrock). The release's are pretty low profile, where as the wildwoods are more of a real beefy trail runner.
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 05:18:14 PM
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 05:18:14 PM »

Also have a pair of Sunringle ZuZus which have taken quite a beating and are cheap though not the nicest pedals.  Also, the race you are doing sounds absolutely amazing, best of luck.
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #9 on: September 07, 2009, 11:46:57 PM
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2009, 11:46:57 PM »

Thanks Keatan.  I'll post a full report next month.  Course, my wife and I got snowed on hiking in Glacier NP today, so it may end up being a ski race.

The Fireblade and blue Superfeet combo is the beez kneez.  Yo.
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 01:33:53 PM
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 01:33:53 PM »

http://www.easternbikes.com/products/parts/3

I've had great luck with these...

and with montrail shoes they seem to stick very well...  the plastic seems to be holding up well to 2 k of fixed bag it into rocks techy riding...

The bearings are starting to be rough but are still hanging in there...

about $20 retail and light


Awesome!!  I've been looking for something like these for awhile now!
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #11 on: September 11, 2009, 05:30:05 PM
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2009, 05:30:05 PM »

http://www.canfieldbrothers.com/products/pedals

Just found these very spendy but they look quite interesting to me due to ground clearance issues i have at times  =P
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #12 on: September 11, 2009, 10:06:05 PM
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2009, 10:06:05 PM »



Very pretty.

I've bailed on the bike option outlined above in favor of an all hiking route with a guy from CA, but I have some Atomlabs on the way anyhow.  The DJ crew at the LBS sold me on them. 

My current spring break plan is a bike, hike, and packraft traverse from Moab to Zion. 
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #13 on: September 11, 2009, 10:41:41 PM
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2009, 10:41:41 PM »


My current spring break plan is a bike, hike, and packraft traverse from Moab to Zion. 

That sounds awesome!  I just got back from hiking the narrows in Zion.  Do you plan on packrafting down the narrows? 
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #14 on: September 17, 2009, 07:05:29 PM
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2009, 07:05:29 PM »

http://www.canfieldbrothers.com/products/pedals

Just found these very spendy but they look quite interesting to me due to ground clearance issues i have at times  =P


these been mentioned yet?



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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #15 on: September 17, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2009, 08:55:37 PM »

That sounds awesome!  I just got back from hiking the narrows in Zion.  Do you plan on packrafting down the narrows? 

That'd be ideal, though high enough water (200+ cfs) is unpredictable in late March.  If there's not enough water, I plan on carrying the bike down the Narrows.
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #16 on: September 18, 2009, 10:17:02 AM
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2009, 10:17:02 AM »

Those Flypaper pedals are mad, shame you have to have special cranks for them Sad

I have just picked up a set of DMR V12's in Ox Blood red (looks great on the BlackBuck!) and I will give them a go this weekend with my Salamon's and Vans Old Skools. The V12's are a classic and proven in pretty bad conditions (ie UK winter!)

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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #17 on: October 04, 2009, 07:36:07 PM
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2009, 07:36:07 PM »

DaveC - good look on the Paracour. I follow the lightweight backing closely and had my eye on that one as well. I was just in Missoula, Hamilton and Helena last week. It was my first time out that way. I had a BLAST!
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  Topic Name: Flat pedals for adventure biking Reply #18 on: October 30, 2009, 12:33:25 AM
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2009, 12:33:25 AM »

>Those Flypaper pedals are mad, shame you have to have special cranks for them

Yeah, I wonder why?
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