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  Topic Name: Juggling bivys on: August 23, 2015, 10:33:58 AM
kikoraa


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« on: August 23, 2015, 10:33:58 AM »

I live in ga where every season, the air is soaking wet. So this is mainly a condensation issue. I'm juggling two of the borah bivys. The all mesh and the standard. I was wondering if the standard would still breathe well enough for the 90deg summers and if the mesh would be sufficient for late fall into the 30's. I really just want ONE for 3 seasons. I will be using a tarp to the ground, pad, and a bag or quilt. Would love your thoughts. Thank you.



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  Topic Name: Juggling bivys Reply #1 on: August 23, 2015, 11:44:50 PM
Adam Alphabet


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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2015, 11:44:50 PM »

I live in ga where every season, the air is soaking wet. So this is mainly a condensation issue. I'm juggling two of the borah bivys. The all mesh and the standard. I was wondering if the standard would still breathe well enough for the 90deg summers and if the mesh would be sufficient for late fall into the 30's. I really just want ONE for 3 seasons. I will be using a tarp to the ground, pad, and a bag or quilt. Would love your thoughts. Thank you.



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From my myog experience Momentum fabrics are some of the least breathable 'breathable' fabrics. If condensation is always an issue in your locale I wouldn't consider a full topped M90 bivy.
Conversely bug bivy's won't really cut wind and retain heat so your risk of convective heat loss is far greater in the colder months if the wind is up even a bit is far greater than with a M90 bivy. Bug bivy's are obviously significantly less thermally efficient than a solid topped bivy. Unless you really need it for bugs, I wouldn't bother, you could just sleep on a ground sheet. If you're using a full bag you'll avoid drafts better than with a quilt in a bug bivy.

Sounds like you want the best of both worlds, in your case this is what I would do...
See if he can meet you part way... tell him about your condensation concerns and get the bivy made with a Momentum top that has a netting strip up the middle to help with ventilation. This will help keep drafts out but allow better airflow and help aid in condensation management.

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=96337
http://sticksblog.com/2013/07/05/borah-bivy-modification/
http://cesarandthewoods.blogspot.ca/2013/05/section-hike-and-bivy-modification.html

Good luck!
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  Topic Name: Juggling bivys Reply #2 on: August 28, 2015, 10:12:41 AM
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2015, 10:12:41 AM »

I can't tell, does the bug bivy have a waterproof bottom on it? if it does maybe instead of putting a tarp between it and the ground, you can just get a bug bivy and then pitch a tarp over you to stay dry? then you are bug proof, dry, and have plenty of ventilation.
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  Topic Name: Juggling bivys Reply #3 on: December 01, 2015, 01:26:43 PM
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2015, 01:26:43 PM »

I use a borah gear bivy most nights and I can tell you with 100% certainty that neither of them will breathe well enough to keep condensation off. The bug bivy will breathe best, but when I zip my bivy closed I am often waking up to moisture in my face from my breath on the bug netting. Your best bet to avoid condensation is to stay under tree cover where the relative air temperature is warmer and less likely to dew.

I love the bivy don't get me wrong. It contains my quilt and adds warmth, but condensation is just something that occurs with bivy life.
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