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Reply #20 on: February 19, 2011, 06:00:13 PM
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Hubcap29erMan
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2011, 06:00:13 PM » |
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What would it take to get a few rough patterns drawn up on some kraft paper or light cardboard? Great design.
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Reply #21 on: February 19, 2011, 06:19:37 PM
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JReeves
Location: Reno, NV
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2011, 06:19:37 PM » |
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Hey guys. Been a busy few weeks and haven't had any time to touch the sewing machine. The weather has turned nasty up here, and I should have some down time next week to get to messing around with it. Got all my materials from RockyWoods so the next step is getting down in front of the machine. Hubcap, I can snap a picture of my patterns and post them up here when I'm in the process.
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Reply #22 on: February 19, 2011, 07:45:48 PM
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Hubcap29erMan
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2011, 07:45:48 PM » |
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Sweet. Thanks. We have some bad weather coming in here as well so time to catch up on some inside work. THANKS!
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Reply #23 on: February 19, 2011, 09:37:57 PM
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Dave-W
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2011, 09:37:57 PM » |
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That is a great looking design, just what I was looking for.
Please make some, because I want one.
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Reply #24 on: February 20, 2011, 08:14:30 AM
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grannygear
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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2011, 08:14:30 AM » |
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Well done! When I did my seat bag out of the stuff sack, I had originally wanted to make a system very much like yours in that it would use any dry sack or stuff sack so it was modular and when the bag wore out, easily replaced. I faced an issue of no sewing machine (had to rely on a friends very busy wife) and lack of talent on my part! I also faced the same issues of "coning" it down or tapering it at front. I wanted to make an external stiffener but finally used shaped plastic inside instead. I like your way better. Very nice. I even walked through the market looking for a correctly shaped plastic bottle to cut up and then I was going to sew material around it. I also had the same issues...wiggle/sway. CDW gets around that with the close set top buckle and strap at the saddle rails. That is the biggest part of holding it firm, even more than the seat post wrap, but he also lines his seat post velcro with rubber for more 'stick'. I used the Quick Fist as something that required no stitching but did poke holes in the sack. I sealed them with some RTV when I bolted them down. The bummer about the quick fist is the weight, but it sure worked well and even kept the bag away from rubbing. Bag Bra. Now THAT is inspired. Buy that guy a beer, file some papers, fix the wiggle and get to production cuz I would buy one and I know friends would too.
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Reply #25 on: February 20, 2011, 08:51:43 AM
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pro_out
Location: Oklahoma
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« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2011, 08:51:43 AM » |
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Great design. Similar, in concept, to something I posted up earlier. What you came up with is what I had in the back of my mind when I started my project but I had no Sewing machine at that time. After lots of trial and error of my own I would like to make a few suggestions that helped my project. 1 Increase the angle of the front strap, this will help lift the bag from a more central point and also help pull it towards the seatpost. Should help with sway. (red lines) 2 You WILL need to add a piece of heavy weight( or several layers) material to protect the drybag from the seat rails and adjusting bolt. If not, after a little use you will end up with a kinda dry bag. (green) 3 Attach your top strap to the protective piece rather than the seat rails. (blue) 4 If I sew one up( now that I have a sewing machine) , thinking I might add a narrow pocket to the bottom to hold my 3-12" tarp poles and/or my hand pump, anything to make the bottom more rigid.(yellow) I have reduced the weight of my version of a bag harness to 12oz.. Sewing one could cut that weight close to half. Thinkin now.
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Reply #26 on: March 02, 2011, 08:53:27 AM
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Hubcap29erMan
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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2011, 08:53:27 AM » |
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Any other tips or pointers before I try to stitch something like this up? JReeves, any other pics to share or post? Here is what I have stitched up so far. Obviously still need a decent, color coordinated seat pack.
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Reply #27 on: March 30, 2011, 10:21:46 PM
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Solrider
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2011, 10:21:46 PM » |
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Any updates?
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Reply #28 on: March 31, 2011, 05:18:36 AM
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Hubcap29erMan
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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2011, 05:18:36 AM » |
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Still hoping JReeves jumps back in and passes on some more info.. and pics. I have some patterns I made up for another design but really like his better so I haven't moved forward with anything.
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Reply #29 on: May 30, 2011, 11:41:26 PM
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JReeves
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 145
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2011, 11:41:26 PM » |
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Whelp... I'm still alive! Haven't been on here in a couple months, and unfortunately just recently got around to finishing up some stuff on the bike. The weather has been less than ideal, and last weekend marked the first camping trip of the year(and of course via bike). Loaded up the touring bike and did a short over-nighter that tallied up about 60 miles round trip. It was the first real dirt that the "touring" bike had seen, and I was very surprised with how well it did! Definitely over-packed, but it the weather was calling for rain and cold temps, so I brought extra layers. And way too much food! Recently starting doing some MTB races, and I'm getting more and more into it. The 29er was the first MTB I've owned since being a teen, and I have to say, it's got me hooked. Already got ideas in my head of what the next bike build will be...("uh oh" says the wallet). Aside from riding and running a lot, work has left me little time that I've felt like "working" on things with. Until this week... Dusted off the sewing machine and get a frame bag stitched up yesterday. And today I put the finishing touches on a handle bar pack system. Similar in design to my seat pack, in that it's "modular". With the setup shown below in the next post, my bike is "carrying": Seat Pack: 20 degree down sleeping bag Outdoor Research down jacket Handlebar Pack: Golite Shangri La 1 Shelter(24 ounces with 6 stakes) Big Agnes Insulated Air Core Sleeping Pad Frame Bag: 70oz water Two collapsable aluminum poles(3 ounces) for Golite Shelter(they velcro up on the inside against the top tube) Full tool kit and spare tube(room for two) Katadyn Water Filter(if needed depending on destination) I was pleasantly surprised that I managed to get the shelter and sleeping pad rolled up and into a stuff sack. Once I did, I decided to try to figure out a minimalist way to get them off my back, as they were two of the heavier items that would have also taken up a lot of space in the pack. Essentially, this means that all I need to carry on my back would be food, cooking supplies, camera, and extra clothing. For that I decided to use my 20% off REI coupon to pick up everybody's favorite; an Osprey Talon 22. This also means that I could ditch the water filter and just carry an additional 100oz on my back too. In my "test" run of packing for a three day/two night trip, I have plenty of room, and only about 8 pounds on my back(water not included). Which should carry very well. ******I'm going to post this in two posts as it's getting lengthy*******
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Reply #30 on: May 31, 2011, 12:14:02 AM
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JReeves
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 145
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« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2011, 12:14:02 AM » |
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And finally, on with the pictures..... Here's the frame bag: I made a removable(velcro) divider to split the bag(you can see some faint stitching lines between the two zippers). This allows some heavy small items to sit down low, and then cradles the water bladder up high. This also acts as a semi-rigid form to prevent the bag from bulging out when full. Handle Bar Pack: Here's the shelter, 6 stakes, 20 or so feet of paracord, and sleeping pad rolled up and inside the included stuff sack. Here's what I came up with to attach it to the bike. It turned out really solid, and motivates me to redo my seat pack! I can hardly get it to move more than about 1/4" in any direction. And it's narrow enough and small enough that it will hardly be noticeable. I knew I wanted some "form" to it, so that it would not only work for the stuff sack I built it around, but also even a small bag of groceries, or clothes, etc. I used some plastic craft webbing stuff as an insert to give it a some what rigid shape. After deciding not to sew this plastic mesh in, I figured this solution would work nicely as a map pocket, or even to stash money and credit cards/id. It's kind of hidden, water resistant(water proof with a simple ziploc bag), and seals securely with velcro. Full sheets of 8.5"x11" paper fit in here(for home printed maps). Here's kind of a bottom view. You'll see how the straps are routed. None of the straps are permanently attached to this "cradle", so that they can be changed, or moved if needed. Partially through "channels" in a double layered pocket(shown in the "back view" with gels in them), and partially through a daisy chain at the front of the pack. Mounted on bike: It's hard to see exactly, but the bar mounting is where I spent a ton of time. Not really in making it, as it turned out pretty easy to make, but in figuring out what would work. It took three tries to get a strap system that I was happy with. Concerns were: Which way the tension needed to be pulled to prevent it from rubbing the head tube, how to keep it centered, how to prevent the straps from loosening on their own, etc. Take a look from the different angles and you'll see how it's all on there. Little chunks of tube are on the straps under the bars, and actually work really well at keeping it from shifting up and down the bars. The small sliders on the straps are what cinches the strap down tightly on the bar, and then the tension is increased by the straps on the front of the pack. This in turn pulls the whole thing up into the bars, and forward at the same time. Which is what I had hoped to accomplish. Front view- Top view- Back view- Side view- And here's a really crappy picture of all of it together, and loaded up. I'll take a better picture outside tomorrow in the sun. Sorry if that was too lengthy. Just wanted to offer some insight for those who might be interested... I'm leaving all of my sewing stuff out, in an effort to motivate me to get to work on the seat pack, version 2...
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Reply #31 on: June 06, 2011, 09:59:24 AM
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martinkates
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« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2011, 09:59:24 AM » |
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I am going to buy one seat bag, its on sale
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Reply #32 on: June 21, 2011, 02:36:59 PM
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unsponsored
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« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2011, 02:36:59 PM » |
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It looks like a really nicely put together piece of work.
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Reply #33 on: June 22, 2011, 01:30:57 PM
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JReeves
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 145
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« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2011, 01:30:57 PM » |
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Well... I'm loaded and ready to go, or as ready as I'm gonna get... This will be my first "extended" bikepacking trip! Heading out on Friday for a 5 days. I'll cover over 200 miles of dirt roads and trails. I'll be stopping to fish along the way, and exploring some of the Eastern Sierra Backcountry! Excited to get out there, and quit worrying/debating/planning it all! -Jesse
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Reply #34 on: June 22, 2011, 01:34:50 PM
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donkey
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« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2011, 01:34:50 PM » |
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Where are you heading in the Eastern Sierras? I'm relatively local and am always looking for good ideas up there.
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Reply #35 on: June 22, 2011, 08:31:07 PM
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JReeves
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 145
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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2011, 08:31:07 PM » |
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Gonna start at Mono lake and head North from there. I'll hit Twin Lakes, Virginia Lakes, Tamarack Lake... Then might check out Kirman, and some of the little creeks in the area... Kinda going at it with an open agenda, and mind!!!
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