skills for loaded riding

[walksalot]

What riding skills for general (unloaded) mountain biking also apply to riding with panniers, rackless luggage systems, or trailers, and which skills have to be modified or abandoned? Let's take bunny hops as an example: I'm guessing that a bunny hop is:
a. moderately effective with a rackless cargo system or backpack
b. largely ineffective with panniers
c. impossible with a trailer

How about other riding skills for dealing with obstacles, hills, and various trail surfaces? What skills work and what don't? Are there any skills that only apply to loaded riding that you don't use at all when riding unloaded?

[AZTtripper]

Riding a well balanced rackless BP set up is not much different then everyday riding.

When I used to run rack and panniers I found I could stand more as there was always plenty of weight on the back wheel for traction.

A strong rider could likely bunny hop even with R and P's but with a trailer your never going to get lift on the 3rd wheel.

Once while pulling the Bob I caught air on a rolling grade dip felt like the trailer caught air as well. That was not done on purpose and after the one time I made sure not to let it happen again.

It's maybe not so much how you ride differently loaded vs unloaded but rather how you ride differently when your in the back country. Doesn't matter if your 50 miles out on a long ass day ride or an over nighter the last thing you want to do is fold a wheel.

[D45yth]

Saddlebags can cause problems on steep descents.  You can't get behind the saddle because of the bag and you're lucky if you can drop it more than a few inches before the bag rubs the tyre.

[AZTtripper]

When I was getting ready to buy mine I was thinking of the bigger of the two sizes a friend pointed out exactly what D45 is saying. But if you go with the smaller size and don't overload it you can still get back and down.

[Stevland]

Any real advantage you see to setting up Racks and Panniers over a sling, framebag, seatbag setup?

[AZTtripper]

Any real advantage you see to setting up Racks and Panniers over a sling, framebag, seatbag setup?

Only that you can carry more stuff. For a truly self contained trip IE no resupply options rack and panniers front and rear or a Bob trailer and it can be done. Once you go light your moving faster and hitting stores more often. 

[Bill in Houston]

with panniers you could get back and lower more easily than with a seatbag.  plus they generally carry the weight lower.

[AZTtripper]

with panniers you could get back and lower more easily than with a seatbag.  plus they generally carry the weight lower.

They carry the weight alright they weigh too much to begin with. And once you hit HAB they start hitting your legs. Unless your going full on self contained on a really extended trip the weight of a bivy kit doesn't weigh that much. A lighter bike is going to ride climb and descend better then a heavy one.

[Done]

I raced the CTR with panniers in 2010, and with a seatbag & handlebar setup in 2012. There are advantages and disadvantages to both systems. But the truth is that luggage of all types becomes pretty much invisible after the first day or so. As for skills, I think that learning how to move a top-heavy bike on slow technical ascents is the most important. As silly as it sounds, I find myself simply tipping over when trying to stop sometimes!

edit: It's possible to bunny hop with both systems. Almost all skills are possible. At least most of my skills are possible--likely because I don't have many to start with!