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on: August 16, 2009, 07:56:29 AM
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phil_rad
Location: Gelnhausen, Germany
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Just wondering how many of you out there are running tubeless on your bikepacking trips.
And, what kind of set ups are you using? UST, normal tube tires, sealant, that kind of thing.
Thanks!
Phil
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Topic Name: Tubeless tires for bikepacking??
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Reply #1 on: August 16, 2009, 08:14:10 AM
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Pivvay
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Location: Westminster, CO
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2009, 08:14:10 AM » |
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me. notubes rims, standard tires, a little extra sealant, 29er
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Topic Name: Tubeless tires for bikepacking??
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Reply #2 on: August 16, 2009, 08:35:57 AM
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phil_rad
Location: Gelnhausen, Germany
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2009, 08:35:57 AM » |
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Hi Chris,
did you run that set up on this years divide race? if yes did you have any problems?
thanks for your feedback. :-)
phil
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Topic Name: Tubeless tires for bikepacking??
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Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 08:42:33 AM
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Pivvay
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Location: Westminster, CO
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 08:42:33 AM » |
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I've run it for Kokopelli, Colorado Trail, AZT 300, 2008 Divide ITT for 1000 miles and this years TD plus all the training. I've only ever flatted in training and then usually when I ran out of sealant due to age.
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Topic Name: Tubeless tires for bikepacking??
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Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 08:48:52 AM
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jonesy792
Location: Tucson AZ
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 08:48:52 AM » |
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Tubeless is the only way to go. Right now I'm running ghetto tubeless on my 26er, might do stans strip on the 29er
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Reply #5 on: August 16, 2009, 08:51:11 AM
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phil_rad
Location: Gelnhausen, Germany
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2009, 08:51:11 AM » |
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thats alot of miles! you use it in the winter months also?
by the way, congrats on your awsome ride this at the divide. really amazing how fast you finished on a SS!
phil
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Topic Name: Tubeless tires for bikepacking??
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Reply #6 on: August 16, 2009, 09:05:59 AM
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Pivvay
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2009, 09:05:59 AM » |
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I use it year round. I do use tubes on my Endomorph shod snow bike but otherwise have no problems with sealant in the winter. My bikes do live inside other than when I take them out training.
I just use yellow tape as well. Watch out for the valves when the get really old. I have had a couple split at the base of the rubber/metal junction. It's easy to cut a new valve out of a punctured tube so I replace them at regular intervals.
I start with fresh tires and stans for all multiday races, no sense in risking old tires for a race. I use the half worn out tires all winter long for training until they no longer hold air or the tread is totally gone.
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Topic Name: Tubeless tires for bikepacking??
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Reply #7 on: August 16, 2009, 09:15:28 AM
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phil_rad
Location: Gelnhausen, Germany
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2009, 09:15:28 AM » |
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thank you for your comments chris  phil |
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Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 03:26:45 PM
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DaveC
Location: Kalispell, MT
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 03:26:45 PM » |
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Tubeless is obligatory. Get tires with tough enough sidewalls and keep up on sealant and you should be worry free.
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Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 03:34:27 PM
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phil_rad
Location: Gelnhausen, Germany
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 03:34:27 PM » |
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I normaly ride Schwalbe's Racing Ralph's, what tire would you recomend for tubeless?
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Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 06:49:12 PM
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Pivvay
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 06:49:12 PM » |
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The racing ralphs are great but I only trust the snakeskin version. The EVOs sidewalls are too thin too trust. Heck even my wife slashed one  |
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Topic Name: Tubeless tires for bikepacking??
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Reply #11 on: August 17, 2009, 11:32:50 AM
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phil_rad
Location: Gelnhausen, Germany
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2009, 11:32:50 AM » |
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I slashed one too, on a gravel road. I'm trying out right now the Geax Saguaro in 2.2 29er. Rolls really fast and traction is as good or better than the Ralph's.
One problem though, they're too tight on a notubes 355 rim. So I'm looking for another tire thats equal to both.
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Reply #12 on: August 17, 2009, 12:23:29 PM
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Slim
Location: Duluth MN, North Central USA
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2009, 12:23:29 PM » |
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I'm not sure what you mean with 'too tight'. Do you mean that the bead (the kevlar 'loop' on each side of the tire that holds it on) is tight? That would actually be a good thing for tubeless set-up, then they wouldn't blow of the rim very easy.
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Reply #13 on: August 17, 2009, 01:13:08 PM
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phil_rad
Location: Gelnhausen, Germany
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2009, 01:13:08 PM » |
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I mean tight as in you can hardly get them on/off the rim. I've broken a few tire levers. The TNT models are so tight that once their on you have to cut them off. They are extremly tight on stans rims.
I just wanted to hear what kind of tires you all are using.
Happy trails!
Phil
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Reply #14 on: August 17, 2009, 01:55:43 PM
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Pivvay
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2009, 01:55:43 PM » |
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I've use the following 29ers with good success so far. The nanos suffice for a rear tire except in extreme circumstances. A bigger front tire is needed on "real" trails like the CTR, a nano front is perfect on the Divide.
Nanoraptor Race
Conti Mtn King 2.4
DryX
Negaval
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Reply #15 on: April 08, 2011, 06:04:50 PM
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USAFwilderdude
Location: Oklahoma City/Tinker AFB
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2011, 06:04:50 PM » |
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I mean tight as in you can hardly get them on/off the rim. I've broken a few tire levers. The TNT models are so tight that once their on you have to cut them off. They are extremly tight on stans rims.
I just wanted to hear what kind of tires you all are using.
Happy trails!
Phil
I feel a lot better after reading this. I also broke 2 tire levers trying to get my TNT tires off. I felt like a big wuss going into my LBS with my head down having to ask them to get the tire off for me... Also, I'm deployed right now and my bike will be static for 6 months by the time I get back to the states. Is this going to affect the sealant in my tubeless tires?? |
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Topic Name: Tubeless tires for bikepacking??
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Reply #16 on: April 12, 2011, 01:23:47 AM
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bartspedden
Location: Crested Butte, CO
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2011, 01:23:47 AM » |
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I have had great success with maxis crossmark's ust, though I still use stan's too. My next set of crossmarks will not be ust to save the weight since sealant is helpful even with ust.
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Topic Name: Tubeless tires for bikepacking??
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Reply #17 on: April 14, 2011, 05:41:53 PM
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Slim
Location: Duluth MN, North Central USA
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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2011, 05:41:53 PM » |
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Yes, the sealant should be changed every few months.
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