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on: June 28, 2011, 07:37:06 AM
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rhino
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Anybody recommend a route in Arizona that isn't either burned up or 113 degrees. Looking for 2-3 days, 200 miles, with some water or stores.
Itching to get back on the trails.
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Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
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Foster
Location: Fort Campbell, KY
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 09:28:29 PM » |
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Go do the Kaibab 200...
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Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 01:21:12 PM
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ajrmd2002
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 01:21:12 PM » |
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North Rim of the Grand Canyon. http://mtbikeaz.com/trail This is a nice website for lots of AZ trails. It takes for every to get there though. 7hr + from Phx, 5 from Flag. Also check out Show Low area, Los Burros campground is next to White mountain trail system. http://www.tracks-pinetop-lakeside.org/I don't think the wallow fire burned this area, but you should double check. AR |
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Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 03:54:01 PM
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rhino
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 03:54:01 PM » |
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Go do the Kaibab 200...
yeah Foster, that one is on my list. Wondering if anyone else had any ideas. Probably end up doing the Kaibab very soon. |
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Reply #4 on: June 29, 2011, 09:22:53 PM
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Foster
Location: Fort Campbell, KY
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2011, 09:22:53 PM » |
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Hey so when do you plan on doing this ride of 200 miles this summer? I might be down to join you if I ain't already doing something.
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Reply #5 on: June 30, 2011, 07:37:27 AM
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rhino
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2011, 07:37:27 AM » |
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Hey so when do you plan on doing this ride of 200 miles this summer? I might be down to join you if I ain't already doing something.
plan on doing it between July and September. I don't know much about the route so I need to do some research and figure things out. I'll post up. Would love a trail partner...or two. |
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Reply #6 on: June 30, 2011, 05:56:30 PM
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sherpaxc
Location: Austin, TX
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2011, 05:56:30 PM » |
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Hey! Any of ya'll AZ or Utah peeps gonna be around Sunday/Mon/Tues of next week? I'm staying at Jacob Lake and looking to ride. I'll be hitting up the Rainbow Trail. Any takers?
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Reply #7 on: July 06, 2011, 08:46:35 AM
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sherpaxc
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2011, 08:46:35 AM » |
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The rAinbow rim trail was awesome! Great overlooks! The azt was cool too. Fun times!
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Reply #8 on: July 13, 2011, 08:41:40 PM
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Foster
Location: Fort Campbell, KY
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2011, 08:41:40 PM » |
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I think I am going to go and do the kaibab 200 next weekend. Where can I find route info or gpx files?
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Reply #9 on: July 14, 2011, 12:56:46 PM
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Reply #10 on: July 14, 2011, 02:35:10 PM
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Foster
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2011, 02:35:10 PM » |
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Anyone want to join me on the Kaibab 200 next weekend? I am leaving thursday evening from flagstaff. Thats the 21st.
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Reply #11 on: July 15, 2011, 02:11:12 AM
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DesertDog
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2011, 02:11:12 AM » |
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Foster, send an email to DaveH (Dave Harris), the course is his creation. There are files to be found for the KMC 125, and I even have them on my Kaibab Plateau page ( http://sites.google.com/site/dirtypursuits/destinations/kaibabplateau ), but I don't know where there are any gps tracks for the 200. Dave may have them on the http://2-epic.com site, but, if so, there isn't a direct link to them. I'd join you, but I won't be up there until the 27th or 28th. This season has just sucked. Between too much snow, to many fires, then getting something the like of a 'Valley Fever' ( http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/dust-storm-sicknesses_2011-07-12 ), my travel plans have gotten trashed and I am just looking to do maybe 10 days thru Flagstaff, the Kaibab Plateau, and the Aquarius-Sevier-Paunsaugunt-Markagunt Plateau areas between Bryce Canyon and Cedar City, UT (Dixie 200 and Trans-Utah country) after the Tour de France is finished. |
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Reply #12 on: July 15, 2011, 02:15:08 AM
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DesertDog
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2011, 02:15:08 AM » |
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Anybody recommend a route in Arizona that isn't either burned up or 113 degrees. Looking for 2-3 days, 200 miles, with some water or stores.
Itching to get back on the trails.
Yes, I am quite saddened by the fact that both my Apache 200 and Big Lake Enduro courses got trashed from the Wallow fire! Perhaps there can just be a WMTS Enduro event (60 miles) in the Fall? |
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Reply #13 on: July 15, 2011, 08:33:21 AM
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Foster
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2011, 08:33:21 AM » |
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Foster, send an email to DaveH (Dave Harris), the course is his creation. There are files to be found for the KMC 125, and I even have them on my Kaibab Plateau page ( http://sites.google.com/site/dirtypursuits/destinations/kaibabplateau ), but I don't know where there are any gps tracks for the 200. Dave may have them on the http://2-epic.com site, but, if so, there isn't a direct link to them. I'd join you, but I won't be up there until the 27th or 28th. This season has just sucked. Between too much snow, to many fires, then getting something the like of a 'Valley Fever' ( http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/dust-storm-sicknesses_2011-07-12 ), my travel plans have gotten trashed and I am just looking to do maybe 10 days thru Flagstaff, the Kaibab Plateau, and the Aquarius-Sevier-Paunsaugunt-Markagunt Plateau areas between Bryce Canyon and Cedar City, UT (Dixie 200 and Trans-Utah country) after the Tour de France is finished. Cool, thanks for the information. If you are going to be around here in flagstaff and wanna go do some riding long or short let me know I live in flagstaff. Sorry about your rough season. Also you may want to reconsider going and doing the dixie 200 during the monsoon season. If it rains hard on any of that clay shit out there it will not be fun. Brad Mattingly and I just experienced that last weekend and it was horrible. Easily the worst mud I have ever ridden through in my life. |
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Reply #14 on: July 15, 2011, 09:55:43 AM
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DaveH
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2011, 09:55:43 AM » |
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Also you may want to reconsider going and doing the dixie 200 during the monsoon season. If it rains hard on any of that clay shit out there it will not be fun. Brad Mattingly and I just experienced that last weekend and it was horrible. Easily the worst mud I have ever ridden through in my life.
Wow! Yes we do mud right here in Utah. That answers the question of why your tracks stopped where they did, and why you didn't even get to do Thunder Mtn on your way back to the start. ouch. On the flip side, if you get caught in a short lived storm out here it normally dries up in a few hours. I didn't realize the Apache event got whacked by willow fire, sorry to hear that. Well, I've been considering the notion of a September Dixie date. Lingering snow and deadfall are a couple of big hurdles to a late June Dixie ride. Trails in Sept are in the best shape of the year. I'll be doing some scouting for a few new pieces in August and will keep everyone posted on progress - but likely will have a "test ride" in September and move the Dixie to Sept starting in 2012. Stay tuned for more... On the KMC GPX files, Dave Chenault (DaveC here on bikepacking.net) is the course creator and initially his wishes were to supply turn by turn directions and not make GPX files publicly available. The directions are all followable on a Kaibab NF map and can be used with topofusion to generate a GPX (that's what I've done in the past). Of course I do have GPX files for the route. If DaveC wants to make them publicly available I'll share them (both the 130 and 200). That said, if you use the turn by turn directions to make your own GPX file you'll get a better understanding of the area. |
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Reply #15 on: July 15, 2011, 12:58:11 PM
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Foster
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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2011, 12:58:11 PM » |
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Wow! Yes we do mud right here in Utah. That answers the question of why your tracks stopped where they did, and why you didn't even get to do Thunder Mtn on your way back to the start. ouch. Yeah we had some serious storms roll through the area and it rained all day and all night, I think we made a good decision of calling. The mud was horrible. But we did wake up early the next day and ride the thunder mountain trail as part of our plan b which was awesome, and also much more rideable because it was packed down. Seems like a highly used trail compared to everything else on the dixie 200. Also we attempted to ride the entire grand view trail as a plan b (78 miles) from the thunder mountain trailhead but that wasn't really even a trail after about 10 miles out on it, it was very obscure and still muddy. After having enough of the mud we escaped to the north rim and rode a good chunk of the AZ trail. |
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Reply #16 on: July 15, 2011, 01:15:57 PM
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DaveH
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2011, 01:15:57 PM » |
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Also we attempted to ride the entire grand view trail as a plan b (78 miles) from the thunder mountain trailhead but that wasn't really even a trail after about 10 miles out on it, it was very obscure and still muddy.
I know that section (it's not part of the Dixie route), it was part of the Paunaugunt enduro routes in '09. It was really fun then but I haven't been back since. Some parts of it are forgotten, washed out and difficult hike a bike. For certain the big winter around here has given all the trails a new "flavor" this year. Glad you found some terrain better suited to riding in the wet. |
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Reply #17 on: July 16, 2011, 12:56:38 AM
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DesertDog
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2011, 12:56:38 AM » |
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Yep, pretty much the whole Big Lake section got taken out. About all that didn't get hit were the valley to Greer, the Big Lake complex and Mexican Hay Lake. I've got an image attached that shows the 200 in blue and the Wallow fire perimeter in red. I should just do a 1 day, 60 mile WMTS Enduro event on Saturday, Sept 24th? If so, I'll go down to the Big Lake area on Sunday to see the carnage - not that I really want to have to see it, but...
I could have swore that you did up the Kaibab routes. Guess I got fooled by seing the name Dave in the text on the course web page, seeing your name in the results from every year and seeing your course map for the 200 on 2-epic.
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Reply #18 on: July 16, 2011, 05:05:26 AM
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AZTtripper
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2011, 05:05:26 AM » |
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I have been going up to the Big Lake area for several years, while I am bummed to see it burn I also think that fire is an important part of the ecosystem. Though it's hard to tell for sure from the TV new footage I did see some green in the backgrounds. On shot of a guy felling a burning tree during mop up showed lots of trees still standing. Some shots showed the full on carnage others made it look patchy, here's hoping there is as much patchy as there is moon scape.
Eric have fun on the KMC ride lots of good stuff up there. I haven't gotten to do a KMC trip but I have ridden all of those trails in the summer during monsoon don't remember any mud.
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