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on: October 26, 2009, 10:07:46 AM
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Pivvay
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I'm looking for a couple sandy test routes for the coming Fatback. Water not necessary, 4wd roads fine. Looking to start with an overnight and stretch to a week long trip slowly so any options from a long day to a week are good. Utah is ideal as it's closer but Arizona would be fine too.
Fred, DH, Scott, Chad...I'm looking at you guys here. Where should I point the TopoFusion screen?
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Topic Name: Sandy terrible routes
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Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 10:46:47 AM
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ScottM
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 10:46:47 AM » |
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http://www.bikepacking.net/routes/el-camino-del-diablo/That's a good base route. Several roads branch north towards I-8 and continue beyond. They looked even more sandy than the camino diablo itself.
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Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 10:54:34 AM
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Pivvay
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 10:54:34 AM » |
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Eye perfecto! One of these near Moab would be great too  |
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Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 01:47:01 PM
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DaveC
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 01:47:01 PM » |
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The 4x4 road in Arches that goes from Willow Flats out to the Marching Men would be a good short source of sand. The 4x4 roads in the Needles section of Canyonlands have plenty, too.
Surprisingly, few sustained routes of sand are coming to mind. Probably because I avoided all of them so as to not get the car stuck.
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Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 01:50:42 PM
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frejwilk
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 01:50:42 PM » |
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Chris,
I don't have any routes or loops preplanned (and definitely no GPS info). But there are a few areas here that would probably serve you well.
East of Arches NP is some sand. Especially the area accessed from Dewey Bridge. Definitely strong possibilities for an overnight ride there.
Northwest of hwys 191 and 313 are lots of sandy roads. Many lead to Green river overlooks. Some access the river itself, setting up potential loops. Lots of washes out there could be used to make loops with the roads. The ATV'ers and moto riders are doing that already. I would think a weekend's worth of exploring exists out there.
A loop with Pritchett Canyon and Kane Creek Canyon might make a nice longer day ride.
FW
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Reply #5 on: October 26, 2009, 04:16:13 PM
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timroz
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2009, 04:16:13 PM » |
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The road that heads north from the sand dunes NP. Medano Pass Road. The 1st 4 miles are 100% unrideable on a regular bike so I punted. It showed no signs of improving. I've never taken the pug there. Brutal.
Not very long, but maybe worth an overnighter from the campground. Could probably ride on the edge of the dunes also. Maybe not, it might be wilderness, but I think some of it is out of the NP.
Plus it'll be cold and windy!
Probably could do Trail Ridge Road or Rollins Pass in real live snow...
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Reply #6 on: October 26, 2009, 04:27:31 PM
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Pivvay
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2009, 04:27:31 PM » |
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Hmmm interesting on the dune road. Too bad you can't ride at the dunes them selves  Snow is not a problem really. Lots of that around in a little bit. I actually want sand specifically. |
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Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 08:19:45 AM
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tRoy
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 08:19:45 AM » |
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Lots of sand on the Navajo Res. Some very sandy roads around Grand Falls (a wild chocolate waterfall in spring) and I hear that Indian Route 4 Southwest of Pinon,AZ is darn sandy.
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Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
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naked indian
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 08:55:44 AM » |
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Come to Florida. I got routes that will make you want to scrape your eyes out of your skull..LOL
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Reply #9 on: October 27, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
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Pivvay
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2009, 08:57:00 AM » |
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You know if it wasn't a 27 hour drive or flying with a Fatbike...I would. Otherwise it's a little too far for training |
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Reply #10 on: October 27, 2009, 09:06:44 AM
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naked indian
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2009, 09:06:44 AM » |
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Understood, LOL.
I seen that MOAB video, I think Jeff K made it, had some sandy sand goodness in it...
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Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 11:17:48 AM
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DaveH
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 11:17:48 AM » |
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So you need sand? I got yer sand. A couple years ago I did a TU explory that while most interesting, ended with a several hour slog through unrideable sand: http://2-epic.com/?p=54. There is a region in southern Utah, bounded on the north by the White Cliffs, Zion on the west, Kanab on the SE corner that is sand hell. It's mostly BLM with little administration and lots of free roaming potential. Gorgeous red rock sandstone country. It's just not that bike friendly. Lot's in this area to keep you busy for weeks. Let me know if this sounds up yer alley and I'll help you pinpoint the super sandy areas. |
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Reply #12 on: October 29, 2009, 06:19:20 AM
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Slowerthensnot
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2009, 06:19:20 AM » |
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Chris,
I don't have any routes or loops preplanned (and definitely no GPS info). But there are a few areas here that would probably serve you well.
East of Arches NP is some sand. Especially the area accessed from Dewey Bridge. Definitely strong possibilities for an overnight ride there.
Northwest of hwys 191 and 313 are lots of sandy roads. Many lead to Green river overlooks. Some access the river itself, setting up potential loops. Lots of washes out there could be used to make loops with the roads. The ATV'ers and moto riders are doing that already. I would think a weekend's worth of exploring exists out there.
A loop with Pritchett Canyon and Kane Creek Canyon might make a nice longer day ride.
FW
Mucho muchco sand that way..... Like NI said makes you wanna scrape your eyeballs out.... |
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Reply #13 on: December 07, 2009, 05:17:23 PM
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jimfab
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2009, 05:17:23 PM » |
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I took my Pug from Buckeye, AZ to quartsite , AZ last year. Plenty O sand. I am going to ride from Yuma to slab city along the east side of the dunes in a few weeks, that is a pile O sand. Anywhere in the open desert is a good place, use LOTS of slime the fat tires are like thorn magnets. Rock rock!  |
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Reply #14 on: August 31, 2010, 10:39:13 PM
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mtntraveler
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2010, 10:39:13 PM » |
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Hi jimfab
I go to Quartsite in January, and am interested in doing your ride from Buckeye to Quartsite. How would it be in the other direction? What is the total distance and what did you do per day? I am assuming that you took two days where did you sleep? How bad is the sand? I just got my Pug built up and would like a good shake down cruise ride. Thank for the info
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Reply #15 on: September 02, 2010, 09:19:24 PM
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jimfab
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2010, 09:19:24 PM » |
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Hey
my best guess is about 130 miles on the route i took. I am not sure cause my computer died at 95 miles. I took 3 days, it was my first real bikepacking trip and i took everything and the kitchen sink along with almost 3 gal of water. Much of the trip was bushwhacking down washes due to lack of a east west road or trail, but that was also the attraction. I think it would be a great ride in either direction. There is NO water or people out that way so plan ahead. I did not make it to slab city last year, but it is in the plans this year for sure.
I did get the pug out to the Glamis sand dunes last year. Turns out you CAN ride on the smaller dunes. Don't expect to set any speed records, but if you know how to get around the dunes and understand them a bit you can find the packed down areas and get around pretty well. I had about 10 psi in the tires, going to 6 or 4 would have helped a bunch. I had so much fun that i have already made plans to go back and just ride the dunes this winter. I would like to try and climb one of the big hills like comp or olds. I may convince all them ATV'ers to give up on horse power and try human power? Probably not.
cheers
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