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Reply #400 on: March 30, 2016, 10:47:40 PM
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Eisfresser
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The Edge is fully functional while charging.
Don't know how to make the Edge run 15h on one charge, 10h is the max I ever got out of it. Lots of functions that can be on or off to influence battery live.
The Trail is the Trail
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Reply #401 on: March 31, 2016, 01:40:08 AM
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ParThomsson_to_go
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MikeI: just curious when you say that youre getting a lot more than 16 hours from your etrex 30, is the backlight completely off? I've heard that you can get decent, battery life if you keep the backlight on the lowest setting, but havent had a chance to test it myself yet. Any thoughts?
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Reply #402 on: March 31, 2016, 02:40:59 AM
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GregMay
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I think I went through two sets of batteries for the HT450 - around 60hours ride time over 4 days. Again, as above, Lithium batteries
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Greg
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Topic Name: 2016 Tour Divide Preparation
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Reply #403 on: March 31, 2016, 08:30:09 AM
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MikeI
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MikeI: just curious when you say that youre getting a lot more than 16 hours from your etrex 30, is the backlight completely off? I've heard that you can get decent, battery life if you keep the backlight on the lowest setting, but havent had a chance to test it myself yet. Any thoughts?
Yes, I had the backlight set on 1 minute or something like that. For lots of the route, you are going to be on a particular road for a long time relatively, and so not being able to see the unit isn't a problem. Trying to navigate through the bike path around Frisco/Silverthorne at 11pm though, I had it on the whole time, which would chew through battery. The CDT would be one of those, and a bunch of those little singletrack connectors between roads is another example where you'd want it on almost 100% to keep from getting lost. |
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Reply #404 on: March 31, 2016, 08:45:00 AM
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jthops
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Thoughts on leaving the maps behind and just using GPS? You could also have a set of cues on the phone. Are there certain maps (of the 6) that are a must-have and others that could be left behind? I'm sure there are a number of opinions, but curious on thoughts. Thanks-
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Reply #405 on: March 31, 2016, 08:53:27 AM
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BobM
Location: The Keweenaw Peninsula, Michigan
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Thoughts on leaving the maps behind and just using GPS? You could also have a set of cues on the phone. Are there certain maps (of the 6) that are a must-have and others that could be left behind? I'm sure there are a number of opinions, but curious on thoughts. Thanks-
Depends on your style. GPS only is flying blind. The maps are a nice quick way to see where you are in relation to towns, streams, etc. What some have done is put the map images on their phones. A bit hard on the eyes, but it would save weight. EDIT: I mean GPS without topos. |
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Reply #406 on: March 31, 2016, 09:11:17 AM
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Flinch
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Maps: Complete ACA Map set weighs 11.9 ounces, or 337 grams, or 0.000337 metric short tons  Absolutely no need for Canadian section: Trading post at 63 miles, Elkford 110, Sparwood another 30, nothing 'till you hit the U.S. border. For the first timer, maps are handy for supply planning, water stops, emergency exit routes, but not necessary overall. They are fun to obsess over during training tho ! I would definitely take a backup set of route cues, as the GPS may crap out just when you need it. Next time I will only take the CO and NM maps, as I have yet to, ahem, complete that part of the route. Up to now I've been...practicing..yeh, that's my story, practicing. Third time is a charm.  GPS tip 'O' day: If you have a removable memory card in the GPS, make sure it has an extra electronic copy of the route GPX files, and any maps. That way if your GPS dies you can transfer data to the new very expensive GPS you buy on route ($500 for a Garmin 650 in Butte, for example - no, not my purchase). Also works if your cell phone has a memory card that fits the GPS too: Simply copy data to the phone card, but make sure the card data is recognized by the GPS. Just my $0.02 |
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And once the Race is over, you won't remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won't even be sure whether the Race is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the Race, you won't be the same person who rode in. That's what the Race is all about.
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Topic Name: 2016 Tour Divide Preparation
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Reply #407 on: March 31, 2016, 10:40:12 AM
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Mike McElveen
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While we're back on the subject of technology, let's stir the pot a little bit: Let's say Racer A has no cell phone and is hours ahead of racer B. Racer A gets to Lima at midnight to find the motel is full, in part because Racer B used his cell phone to call ahead from the trail to book a room and have food left in it. Does racer A have a beef? Is he just SOL because he's too lazy to master the increasingly important and omnipresent technology?
Racer A understands that in the event of a wildfire reroute in New Mexico Racer B may be his only way of learning about it. He also understands that there's not likely to be many, if any racers behind him to worry about.
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Reply #408 on: March 31, 2016, 10:46:07 AM
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BobM
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While we're back on the subject of technology, let's stir the pot a little bit: Let's say Racer A has no cell phone and is hours ahead of racer B. Racer A gets to Lima at midnight to find the motel is full, in part because Racer B used his cell phone to call ahead from the trail to book a room and have food left in it. Does racer A have a beef? Is he just SOL because he's too lazy to master the increasingly important and omnipresent technology?
Racer A understands that in the event of a wildfire reroute in New Mexico Racer B may be his only way of learning about it. He also understands that there's not likely to be many, if any racers behind him to worry about.
Scenario 1 - Racer B is within the rules to call ahead during the race. Racer A has the same opportunity to carry a phone - prepaid are available at very little cost. Racer A also has the ability to use another phone (pay phone, borrowed phone). Racer A might be disappointed, but actually have an advantage if Racer B sleeps in and watches some tv before starting out in the morning. Scenario 2 - reroute info is passed by whatever means possible. If you're saying that Racer A is going to shadow B rather than going forward, that is his choice as well. |
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Reply #409 on: March 31, 2016, 11:21:12 AM
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Flinch
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...but checking on other racer locations is double-frowned upon. Checking on your OWN position is grounds for disqualification!  |
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And once the Race is over, you won't remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won't even be sure whether the Race is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the Race, you won't be the same person who rode in. That's what the Race is all about.
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Topic Name: 2016 Tour Divide Preparation
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Reply #410 on: March 31, 2016, 11:29:26 AM
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BobM
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...but checking on other racer locations is double-frowned upon. Checking on your OWN position is grounds for disqualification! Anyone caught doing something that is double frowned-upon shall be severely chastised and made to feel inferior. Anyone checking their own location and failing to find themselves shall be lost. |
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Reply #411 on: March 31, 2016, 12:04:34 PM
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kiwidave
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« Reply #411 on: March 31, 2016, 12:04:34 PM » |
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Thoughts on leaving the maps behind and just using GPS? You could also have a set of cues on the phone. Are there certain maps (of the 6) that are a must-have and others that could be left behind? I'm sure there are a number of opinions, but curious on thoughts. Thanks-
If you are racing, only the GPS is sufficient. The maps are unnecessary, heavy and large. Buy the set, study them but leave at home. Resupply info: Make your own paper summary to race with so you know distances, services info and terrain in-between (i.e. photocopy the map profiles). Backup 1: Have the cue sheets on your phone, together with scans of the maps in A4 size, with a cloud storage backup so you can always print them out if something goes wrong. Backup 2: Have a mapping app on your phone like Gaia with the route downloaded. Backup 3: Some riders take a spare GPS unit in 2015. (e.g. Josh Kato) |
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Reply #412 on: March 31, 2016, 01:06:57 PM
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sheilar
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"Racer B used his cell phone to call ahead from the trail to book a room and have food left in it" Have food left in it? Might be pushing that legal envelope (unless this was posted in jest).  |
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Reply #413 on: March 31, 2016, 01:51:52 PM
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Mike McElveen
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I mentioned the "food in the room" because it appears in more than one racer's recap/blog from last year.
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Reply #414 on: March 31, 2016, 01:55:25 PM
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BobM
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« Reply #414 on: March 31, 2016, 01:55:25 PM » |
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I mentioned the "food in the room" because it appears in more than one racer's recap/blog from last year.
If it is a service that the motel has available to all their patrons, it's "TD legal". Doesn't necessarily make it compatible with a particular racer's idea of self support, though. |
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Reply #415 on: March 31, 2016, 02:38:02 PM
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kiwidave
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If it is a service that the motel has available to all their patrons, it's "TD legal". Doesn't necessarily make it compatible with a particular racer's idea of self support, though.
It was Lava Mountain Lodge I believe, and they have a restaurant, so it was commercially available to all. The racer wisely a. had the number, and b. called ahead to get them to leave a meal from the restaurant in his room as he knew that the restaurant would be closed on arrival. We need Toby Gadd back here! We are racing the Tour Divide under the Tour Divide rules. There is no more "pure" version of self support - there is one set of rules which apply to everyone. Mike Curiak had a different set of rules to Matt Lee, and even Matt's rules have evolved over the years. |
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Reply #416 on: April 01, 2016, 08:58:19 PM
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Ailuropoda
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« Reply #416 on: April 01, 2016, 08:58:19 PM » |
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I get about 16 hours on my ETrex 30 on Alkaline batteries. I have the backlight turned off as I don't really need it for daytime riding. Sometimes I have to angle the screen if there is too much glare in one position or another.
The number is not precise. I just notice that I have to replace the batteries every four rides or so and my rides are usually about four hours long.
I have a dynamo hub (SP PD8) that I use to charge my lights and my iPhone. I figured I'd carry a few extra sets of batteries for the Etrex and buy them along the route when my stock gets low.
I have an Etrex 20 that I'm going to carry as a backup. And I have a Cateye Velo 7 cycle computer that I have taken the time to calibrate (by adjusting the wheel diameter) to the GPS reading on a known distance.
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Reply #417 on: April 02, 2016, 07:51:54 AM
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Reply #418 on: April 05, 2016, 06:47:31 AM
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Payton MacDonald
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« Reply #418 on: April 05, 2016, 06:47:31 AM » |
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Hey guys, I'm in NYC, maybe I can get in on that riding action?
Also, anyone else flying in on the 7th of June?
Hi guys, sorry for the radio silence. I am really slammed at work right now. And also training. Things will settle down for me in a few weeks and I would be happy to organize a group overnighter. We could leave from my house in West Orange and go out and do some camping near the Pennsylvania border. It would be about 65 miles each way. It's about two-thirds paved and the climbs are pretty mellow compared to what you will find on the Divide, but it is still a good shake down for your gear. If this is your first time on the Divide I highly recommend making sure your rain gear is in good shape. The cold wet weather we have right now is exactly what you will find up in the mountains quite frequently. Only up there there are no gas stations for warming up. Oh, and hills hills hills.. . . the climbs out here are like a little warm up for out there. |
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Reply #419 on: April 06, 2016, 09:44:26 AM
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Jbennett
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Has anyone managed to see how the winter has been along the route? I just checked weather in Salida and noticed that they're already hitting 70 degrees during the days. Short of tracking the weather pages for day-by-day weather information, I'm wondering if there's been any discussion about the conditions over the winter and what it might mean for June.
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