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Reply #300 on: March 11, 2015, 01:22:14 PM
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Jeff Tomassetti
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Jeff I think most racers carry tasty water from K-camp spigot to spigot at La Sevilla.
The reason I asked about Duck Tank is I am guessing that at 100 miles I might be ready to camp and I prefer to camp near a water source. But maybe my first night will be near Kentucky Camp (75 miles) and maybe I will get to La Sevilla.(115 miles) It is hard to know as a rookie. I usually 'overplan' the first 24-48 hours and then just wing it from there. It seems that surviving the first 24 hours is key on this course. Thanks!! |
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #301 on: March 11, 2015, 10:33:15 PM
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schillingsworth
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« Reply #301 on: March 11, 2015, 10:33:15 PM » |
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The reason I asked about Duck Tank is I am guessing that at 100 miles I might be ready to camp and I prefer to camp near a water source. But maybe my first night will be near Kentucky Camp (75 miles) and maybe I will get to La Sevilla.(115 miles) It is hard to know as a rookie. I usually 'overplan' the first 24-48 hours and then just wing it from there. It seems that surviving the first 24 hours is key on this course. Thanks!!
The 15 miles or so after Kentucky Camp are a bit of work, ups & downs with perhaps a HAB or three tossed in. As soon as you exit the hills around the Santa Ritas it's super fun singletrack all the way to I-10 & beyond. A few short techy bits, then there's the options to go 0.25 mile off route to the La Posta Quemada ranch for a burrito & drinks or stay the course on the AZT to La Sevilla CG a few more miles down the trail. Just take a little extra water from Kentucky Camp and call it good. |
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #302 on: March 11, 2015, 11:34:13 PM
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windowace
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Jeff, Not sure the mile marker (110ish), but you can filter from the little creek at I think La Cienega. You have to drop down to the water rather than ride across the frontage road but a reliable source.
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #303 on: March 11, 2015, 11:48:31 PM
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windowace
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« Reply #303 on: March 11, 2015, 11:48:31 PM » |
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Scott M., Someone had asked about snow, and you had mentioned the "regular snow detour" north of the rim. If necessary, what is that route?
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #304 on: March 12, 2015, 04:45:20 AM
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AZTtripper
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« Reply #304 on: March 12, 2015, 04:45:20 AM » |
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The 15 miles or so after Kentucky Camp are a bit of work, ups & downs with perhaps a HAB or three tossed in. As soon as you exit the hills around the Santa Ritas it's super fun singletrack all the way to I-10 & beyond. A few short techy bits, then there's the options to go 0.25 mile off route to the La Posta Quemada ranch for a burrito & drinks or stay the course on the AZT to La Sevilla CG a few more miles down the trail. Just take a little extra water from Kentucky Camp and call it good.
The only "tank" that I know of that has in the past held water clean enough to filter is "The Lake" above "Twin Tanks" just north of the AZT after the trail leaves the National Forest. Jeff, Not sure the mile marker (110ish), but you can filter from the little creek at I think La Cienega. You have to drop down to the water rather than ride across the frontage road but a reliable source.
Once your down there keep going down the trail in the wash briefly and then a contour trail to climb back out, it's always ok to ride more of the AZT you'll rejoin the course north of the bridge at Marsh Station Rd. There is always water down there, other then passing thru on the AZT your supposed to have a permit from the county to hang out down there birding and such. It's a joke seeing as there are regular vehicle incursions. It's super lush down there really a sweet scenic section of the official trail the the course misses. |
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #305 on: March 12, 2015, 04:52:16 AM
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AZTtripper
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« Reply #305 on: March 12, 2015, 04:52:16 AM » |
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Scott M., Someone had asked about snow, and you had mentioned the "regular snow detour" north of the rim. If necessary, what is that route?
Like, "how do I get to Parker Lake?" there's some questions I won't answer and I doubt Scott will either. I'll give you a hint: if the trail is covered in snow there's only one Plowed route out of there. Just messing with ya http://topofusion.com/azt/gpx/ |
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Reply #306 on: March 12, 2015, 08:42:38 AM
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JosiahM
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« Reply #306 on: March 12, 2015, 08:42:38 AM » |
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Does anyone happen to know if there is any cell reception at the state line camp ground? and if not, where the last point of reliable cell reception might be for planning a pick up?
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Reply #307 on: March 12, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
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SlowRide
Location: Clark, CO
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« Reply #307 on: March 12, 2015, 01:59:41 PM » |
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One last note to see if anyone needs a rider to the 750 from Colorado, I'm willing to split costs. I hate Greyhound but soon that's what it'll have to be for me.
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #308 on: March 12, 2015, 02:12:15 PM
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schillingsworth
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« Reply #308 on: March 12, 2015, 02:12:15 PM » |
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Does anyone happen to know if there is any cell reception at the state line camp ground? and if not, where the last point of reliable cell reception might be for planning a pick up?
I wouldn't count on reception at Stateline, but Verizon is pretty good here in the AZ wilds. I would think Jacob Lake is your best bet for reliable service. |
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Reply #309 on: March 12, 2015, 02:28:01 PM
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dream4est
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« Reply #309 on: March 12, 2015, 02:28:01 PM » |
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No ATT in Jacob Lake. The locals say Verizon works nearby IIRC. ATT works at south rim, for a split second in canyon near cottonwood, and then 1.5 miles above finish at start of final DH (always). It kind of works at the finish line but not reliable unless you are up the hill a bit. Your best bet past the south rim to organize a ride is to bring a calling card or quarters and use the pay phone at the general store near the Park entrance leaving the park on the snow detour (highway). It is closed for the season but has a pay phone outside that worked in 2014. The pay phone in the canyon at phantom ranch was broken last year. The pay phone at Jacob Lake was removed last year. Also, Jacob Lake had no public wifi, so no cool wifi texting action either.
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #310 on: March 13, 2015, 07:30:52 AM
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Ron Thomson
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« Reply #310 on: March 13, 2015, 07:30:52 AM » |
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I was able to get some ATT signal at State Line CG. I needed to look around for it but was able to text and web browse.
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #311 on: March 13, 2015, 09:57:59 AM
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Couloirman
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« Reply #311 on: March 13, 2015, 09:57:59 AM » |
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Am I stupid to be considering an ITT in early June? Way too hot? I get off crutches the beginning of May and figure if I am super lucky and PT goes really well I could at least make my way through the 300 and go farther if the leg feels well.
Anyone here done a thru ride in June? Would you do it again?
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Reply #312 on: March 13, 2015, 10:07:38 AM
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joeydurango
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« Reply #312 on: March 13, 2015, 10:07:38 AM » |
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That sounds scary hot to me!
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #313 on: March 13, 2015, 10:10:20 AM
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dream4est
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« Reply #313 on: March 13, 2015, 10:10:20 AM » |
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IF u started at 6pm, rode all night, slept from 11-4 in the day, and did that until roosevelt lake, you would be fine.
That sounds like a hard plan to follow though.
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #314 on: March 13, 2015, 05:42:30 PM
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AZTtripper
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« Reply #314 on: March 13, 2015, 05:42:30 PM » |
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June is the hottest driest month of the year, could it be done sure but it wouldn't be pleasant. For someone who rides here in the heat and kept riding as temps increased you can ride in the full heat, if you pace yourself and get lucky and rehydrate and recover well. Otherwise people do die here, people from out of state usually. People who are fit enough to get into trouble sometimes. A week or two of acclimation would do wonders I'd bet. June is the time to do the Kaibab http://www.bikepacking.net/routes/kaibab-monstercross/ The Coco 250 has been done by a Tucson rider in June. All the AZT from North of Flag South to the Rim above Payson is good. Mt Lemmon is sweet but that's an overnighter at best. Tim |
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #315 on: March 14, 2015, 10:06:11 PM
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Wyatt72
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« Reply #315 on: March 14, 2015, 10:06:11 PM » |
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You don't sleep in the desert past 7:00am. It's to hot. Snakes are bad at night. You'll use twice as much water. It would be difficult for someone that's 100% sound and lives here and rides all the time in the heat. It's a bad idea. Stupid seems critical but not smart.
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Reply #316 on: March 14, 2015, 10:11:17 PM
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Couloirman
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« Reply #316 on: March 14, 2015, 10:11:17 PM » |
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Points taken. Hard to pull out for the race this late so I was exploring all options, but I guess there's always next year. Good luck to everyone out there, the start is quickly approaching...
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Reply #317 on: March 15, 2015, 06:58:59 PM
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« Reply #317 on: March 15, 2015, 06:58:59 PM » |
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Down here covering the Huracan. I plan to send out some call-in stickers for the AZT though. Wish I could be at the start but won't be able to. Hope to hear from everyone on the route and working on a prize for the call-ins!
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #318 on: March 15, 2015, 07:01:15 PM
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« Reply #318 on: March 15, 2015, 07:01:15 PM » |
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I'm looking to start 750 march 31st. Anybody interested in a carpool from Colorado?
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Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2015 Planning
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Reply #319 on: March 15, 2015, 10:25:33 PM
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« Reply #319 on: March 15, 2015, 10:25:33 PM » |
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Down here covering the Huracan. I plan to send out some call-in stickers for the AZT though. Wish I could be at the start but won't be able to. Hope to hear from everyone on the route and working on a prize for the call-ins!
How does the call in work? Where do you call? |
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