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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #300 on: April 04, 2017, 08:26:05 AM
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« Reply #300 on: April 04, 2017, 08:26:05 AM »

As usual feel free to call in updates to MTBCast and I will post them up! 888-866-4491.

Cool,
 I have never used MTBCast, but I did listen to some on last years race.  Anything special to do when calling?
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #301 on: April 04, 2017, 08:30:03 AM
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« Reply #301 on: April 04, 2017, 08:30:03 AM »

Cool,
 I have never used MTBCast, but I did listen to some on last years race.  Anything special to do when calling?

Nothing special. Just give your name and race (and by that I mean "Arizona Trail Race" and not "caucasian"), although no other race will be calling in at that time..it helps, and an update. Rambling on with vivid descriptions of hallucinations due to sleep deprivation and exhaustion is encouraged!
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #302 on: April 04, 2017, 08:38:44 AM
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« Reply #302 on: April 04, 2017, 08:38:44 AM »

Nothing special. Just give your name and race (and by that I mean "Arizona Trail Race" and not "caucasian"), although no other race will be calling in at that time..it helps, and an update. Rambling on with vivid descriptions of hallucinations due to sleep deprivation and exhaustion is encouraged!


Cool thanks!
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #303 on: April 04, 2017, 11:18:45 AM
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« Reply #303 on: April 04, 2017, 11:18:45 AM »

We have a trio of early ITTers hitting the 750 this morning, FYI.  Go yellow dots!
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #304 on: April 04, 2017, 04:33:03 PM
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« Reply #304 on: April 04, 2017, 04:33:03 PM »

For the reroutes, as I'm not a local. If one were to attempt the actual course. Would you realize it's pretty snow covered early or is it a 5 mile in -now I wish I would have taken the reroute, kinda thing. Generally speaking, as I know there are a few.
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #305 on: April 04, 2017, 06:03:41 PM
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« Reply #305 on: April 04, 2017, 06:03:41 PM »

Molino fire Catalina highway closed. Man this year is the perfect storm of bad luck.
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #306 on: April 04, 2017, 06:05:01 PM
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« Reply #306 on: April 04, 2017, 06:05:01 PM »

Fire up on Molino now. Local Tucson news says Catalina Hwy currently closed from bottom to milepost 7. Will have to keep an eye out.
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #307 on: April 04, 2017, 06:06:04 PM
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« Reply #307 on: April 04, 2017, 06:06:04 PM »

Molino fire Catalina highway closed. Man this year is the perfect storm of bad luck.

Nearly simultaneous! And yeah, this year is nuts.
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #308 on: April 04, 2017, 06:59:50 PM
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« Reply #308 on: April 04, 2017, 06:59:50 PM »

Hopefully they get i out, it looks like its burning just on the other side of the Molino basin HAB.
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #309 on: April 04, 2017, 07:18:29 PM
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« Reply #309 on: April 04, 2017, 07:18:29 PM »

At Parker Lake, headed north tomorrow. No turning back now!
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #310 on: April 04, 2017, 09:05:27 PM
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« Reply #310 on: April 04, 2017, 09:05:27 PM »

MVMorten - definitely check in before crossing Redington going north on the AZT.

Plan B:  Redington, Haul Road to Control Road, back UP to Oracle Ridge #1, then down.

Plan C:  Redington, River Road to San Manuel, Webb Rd to where the AZT crosses it.

Right now I'd lean towards Plan B, because to take Oracle Ridge out of it would be sad indeed.  I don't think I could withstand the volume of hate mail if people didn't get to sample its particular brand of hike-a-bike goodness.

Let's hope this fire goes out quickly... and the AZT is open in the aftermath.  It is cool, and it's not summer/dry, so perhaps it'll just be a small one.
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #311 on: April 04, 2017, 09:11:44 PM
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« Reply #311 on: April 04, 2017, 09:11:44 PM »

Option B = big ouch!
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #312 on: April 04, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
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« Reply #312 on: April 04, 2017, 09:34:47 PM »

MVMorten - definitely check in before crossing Redington going north on the AZT.

Plan B:  Redington, Haul Road to Control Road, back UP to Oracle Ridge #1, then down.

Plan C:  Redington, River Road to San Manuel, Webb Rd to where the AZT crosses it.

Right now I'd lean towards Plan B, because to take Oracle Ridge out of it would be sad indeed.  I don't think I could withstand the volume of hate mail if people didn't get to sample its particular brand of hike-a-bike goodness.

Let's hope this fire goes out quickly... and the AZT is open in the aftermath.  It is cool, and it's not summer/dry, so perhaps it'll just be a small one.


Hate to say this, but AZTR without Oracle Ridge would feel like cheating.
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #313 on: April 04, 2017, 10:00:05 PM
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« Reply #313 on: April 04, 2017, 10:00:05 PM »

MVMorten - definitely check in before crossing Redington going north on the AZT.

Plan B:  Redington, Haul Road to Control Road, back UP to Oracle Ridge #1, then down.

Plan C:  Redington, River Road to San Manuel, Webb Rd to where the AZT crosses it.

Right now I'd lean towards Plan B, because to take Oracle Ridge out of it would be sad indeed.  I don't think I could withstand the volume of hate mail if people didn't get to sample its particular brand of hike-a-bike goodness.

Let's hope this fire goes out quickly... and the AZT is open in the aftermath.  It is cool, and it's not summer/dry, so perhaps it'll just be a small one.

Will a gpx file get added to the TF page with the fire reroute/detour in it?
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #314 on: April 04, 2017, 10:26:36 PM
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« Reply #314 on: April 04, 2017, 10:26:36 PM »


Plan B:  Redington, Haul Road to Control Road, back UP to Oracle Ridge #1, then down.


Just to verify, the Haul Road is 4450, right? I was figuring that would be the best reroute, as painful as it might be. Adam and I were joking while watching the news that we would have to climb the control road just to take the ridge back down. Hopefully it doesn't come to that!

From the top of Redington, around the mountain, up the haul road and control road to the oracle ridge trailhead...that's about 60ish miles?

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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #315 on: April 04, 2017, 11:09:14 PM
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« Reply #315 on: April 04, 2017, 11:09:14 PM »

Hopefully the fire stays small and can be contained.  Sometimes the USFS puts a priority on keeping a trail open when they know it is thru hiker/biker season.  

[Edit - re-drew the route as I got off of Rd 4450]

I just drew in the route. If this is what Scott envisioned with Plan B (using Rd 4450), it shows 44.5 miles, +7,300 /-3900 in Topofusion.  What it bypasses shows as 30.4mi, +7300/-3840.   So it is roughly 15mi longer with similar elevatio gain.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/20048723

Looks like there are some stock ponds, springs higher up and maybe running streams in the draws. 

I won't be able to download anything after tonite but will load this in the Garmin and cross my fingers it isn't needed.  
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #316 on: April 05, 2017, 07:26:54 AM
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« Reply #316 on: April 05, 2017, 07:26:54 AM »

MVMorten - definitely check in before crossing Redington going north on the AZT.

Plan B:  Redington, Haul Road to Control Road, back UP to Oracle Ridge #1, then down. ..

Scott you are a sick man to suggest we go all the way around Lemmon only go up the control road just to go down Oracle Ridge.

Sick man indeed, but just sort of person to make sure we all HTFU...  I actually like it.   Although I still would rather just ride the "proper" course.
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #317 on: April 05, 2017, 08:28:27 AM
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« Reply #317 on: April 05, 2017, 08:28:27 AM »

Evdog that looks right, it's the old Jonesy snow detour plus the climb back up the control road. HTFU is right.

On snow detours, even if you 5 miles in when the shit hits the fan you should be able to get back to a graded road crossing and bail.

Man this is not the year for a complete run but it's keeping things interesting for dot watchers.

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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #318 on: April 05, 2017, 08:29:59 AM
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« Reply #318 on: April 05, 2017, 08:29:59 AM »

Hopefully the fire stays small and can be contained.  Sometimes the USFS puts a priority on keeping a trail open when they know it is thru hiker/biker season.  


If it doesn't show up here by Friday we have a chance:  https://www.geomac.gov/viewer/viewer.shtml
Once they get on this map it usually means more personal & $$$, leaving bikepacker SOL.
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  Topic Name: AZT 750/300 2017 Planning Thread Reply #319 on: April 05, 2017, 08:41:10 AM
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« Reply #319 on: April 05, 2017, 08:41:10 AM »

http://tucson.com/news/local/catalina-highway-remains-closed-at-base-due-to-brush-fire/article_3f20a4e4-1974-11e7-9695-63eb268fe7a7.html
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