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Reply #1140 on: June 21, 2012, 08:38:03 AM
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2wheeler
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I wonder if Ollie, considering his experience and success in brevets, is considering a final push to the finish?
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Reply #1141 on: June 21, 2012, 08:39:29 AM
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JeffOYB
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« Reply #1141 on: June 21, 2012, 08:39:29 AM » |
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I don't know how accurate race flow is on trackleaders but it's interesting to look at Ollie and Craig's lines. Ollie's line is smoother whereas Craig's has more variability and has been getting more so as the race goes on. Ollie's lines have remained smooth. Possibly from his gearing?? Maybe just better at pacing over long distances? I don't know but an interesting perspective.
OK, I think I just found these lines. They're the Speed & Speed/Time Plots at the bottom of each Rider's page, right? Yeah, quite different for those 2 guys! If you toggle windows b/w the two it's easy to see. Hard to imagine they've been riding together. Craig's is hugely more ragged and tends to look taller but I suppose the lows are also lower. Are they yo-yo'ing? That's how I'd read it. What is riding a Rohloff like? I think I tried one a few years ago, along with a bunch of other hub-gears, for a couple days, and they ALL seemed to be noticeably inefficient except for their one direct-drive gear. I was shockingly underwhelmed. I'd been hearing how good the new hub-gears were. Like, I wouldn't want to try to ride hard on a hub-gear due to resenting the work-loss -- felt like 1-2mph at 20mph. But I was mostly using one (forget the name) and maybe didn't give the Rohloff enough of a try. The R also seems heavy-ish (rear-heavy, anyway). ...I see that a R system weighs 1800 gr vs 1600 for derailer sys, but that's with a chain on both. Apparently belts are lighter than chains. |
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Reply #1142 on: June 21, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
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Cosmo K
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« Reply #1142 on: June 21, 2012, 08:45:43 AM » |
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Actually, you can look on the main page of trackleaders, half way down the page and the top 10 riders race flow is listed there.
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Reply #1143 on: June 21, 2012, 08:49:39 AM
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bmike-vt
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« Reply #1143 on: June 21, 2012, 08:49:39 AM » |
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I wonder if Ollie, considering his experience and success in brevets, is considering a final push to the finish?
'brevet' as in randonneuring events? Or something different on the other side of the globe? |
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Reply #1144 on: June 21, 2012, 08:50:58 AM
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Reply #1145 on: June 21, 2012, 08:55:49 AM
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« Reply #1145 on: June 21, 2012, 08:55:49 AM » |
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I'm surprised they spent so long in Abiquiu. Probably had a big breakfast and waited for Bode's general store to open. Either that or visiting the Georgia O'keef museum. The next section has a monster climb and no suppies for awhile.
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Reply #1146 on: June 21, 2012, 08:59:57 AM
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« Reply #1146 on: June 21, 2012, 08:59:57 AM » |
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What is riding a Rohloff like? The Rohloff is great, you just have to pause for a milisecond before shifting. Add the belt and it's silent. |
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Reply #1147 on: June 21, 2012, 09:08:31 AM
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moosevt
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« Reply #1147 on: June 21, 2012, 09:08:31 AM » |
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'brevet' as in randonneuring events?
Or something different on the other side of the globe?
Same Mike. He apparently is pretty active with them. Man, don't you wish we were out there? |
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Reply #1148 on: June 21, 2012, 09:13:06 AM
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Reply #1149 on: June 21, 2012, 09:16:33 AM
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caseygreene
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« Reply #1149 on: June 21, 2012, 09:16:33 AM » |
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I'm concerned for Adam Jensen - does anyone have an update or maybe his spot batteries died?
He called me yesterday. Front wheel was seizing up. He was heading back to Salida to figure out what he wanted to do. He's got a plane ticket in Phoenix and with this mechanical he dosen't think he'll be able to finish the race in time to get there. |
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Reply #1150 on: June 21, 2012, 09:17:13 AM
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ThatDudeOnABike
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« Reply #1150 on: June 21, 2012, 09:17:13 AM » |
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The map is misleading on names, two Gunnison's.
At one level we are shown as Fairplay but if you zoom in it shows Como.
Don't let the weather stations confuse you. There are multiple stations around towns, with slightly different names given by NCDC or the NWS. For some reason the stations on the map only give the town name, so there are several duplicates and you have to turn off current weather to see what town the weather station is really in or near. |
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Reply #1151 on: June 21, 2012, 09:19:33 AM
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ThatDudeOnABike
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« Reply #1151 on: June 21, 2012, 09:19:33 AM » |
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He called me yesterday. Front wheel was seizing up. He was heading back to Salida to figure out what he wanted to do. He's got a plane ticket in Phoenix and with this mechanical he dosen't think he'll be able to finish the race in time to get there.
Boy, you don't want to call the race too early. Anything can happen: brakes, wheels, lungs, spills... |
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Reply #1152 on: June 21, 2012, 09:20:05 AM
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caseygreene
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« Reply #1152 on: June 21, 2012, 09:20:05 AM » |
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Hi There! Cjell Money here!
Finishing up the last couple hundred miles on the TD heading NoBo finishing in Banff. I have not arranged an exit after I arrive in Banff. I plan on going back to Colorado and wanted to see if anyone knew the best way to travel South from Banff...or know of a ride traveling South after completing the TD
Pretty sure i could scrounge you a ride if you get yerself down to missoula. Also, I might be heading that way in a about 10ish days. Ill PM u my #. |
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Reply #1153 on: June 21, 2012, 09:21:02 AM
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bmike-vt
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« Reply #1153 on: June 21, 2012, 09:21:02 AM » |
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Same Mike. He apparently is pretty active with them. Man, don't you wish we were out there?
I do. Thinking about how I can get out on the bike this weekend for an overnight... but I have to course check the 400k brevet too, not enough time to ride it (even breaking it into 2 and camping...). So it looks like the car for me. |
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Reply #1154 on: June 21, 2012, 09:28:57 AM
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caseygreene
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« Reply #1154 on: June 21, 2012, 09:28:57 AM » |
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Hi There! Cjell Money here!
Finishing up the last couple hundred miles on the TD heading NoBo finishing in Banff. I have not arranged an exit after I arrive in Banff. I plan on going back to Colorado and wanted to see if anyone knew the best way to travel South from Banff...or know of a ride traveling South after completing the TD
Also here's some shuttle options: Great Divide Shuttle Options |
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Reply #1155 on: June 21, 2012, 09:31:24 AM
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caseygreene
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« Reply #1155 on: June 21, 2012, 09:31:24 AM » |
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Boy, you don't want to call the race too early. Anything can happen: brakes, wheels, lungs, spills...
For sure. I think there are at least 2 riders from past editions who were within 300 miles from the finish when they had to bail. |
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Reply #1156 on: June 21, 2012, 09:45:14 AM
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« Reply #1156 on: June 21, 2012, 09:45:14 AM » |
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He called me yesterday. Front wheel was seizing up. He was heading back to Salida to figure out what he wanted to do. He's got a plane ticket in Phoenix and with this mechanical he doesn't think he'll be able to finish the race in time to get there. Ah man that sucks! any idea what hubs he was running? Also it would be interesting to see what type of mechanical folks are having out there in a bit more detail. |
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Reply #1157 on: June 21, 2012, 09:50:00 AM
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bikingbakke
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« Reply #1157 on: June 21, 2012, 09:50:00 AM » |
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The Rohloff is great, you just have to pause for a milisecond before shifting.
Add the belt and it's silent.
Little bit of drag in the lowest 7 gears, I think their site or others had some stats. It's when the primary 7 are reduced by a second gear, or something along those lines. Makes a bit more noise in those, but the high 7 gears are silent. They feel nice to ride, however I do feel the spin-up effort it takes relative to say a light normal hub to get the mass going. The pause when shifting is small, like a slight 1/8th of a pedal stroke with reduced force. They also shift while stopped, which is novel for stoplights and such. |
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Reply #1158 on: June 21, 2012, 09:52:04 AM
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caseygreene
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« Reply #1158 on: June 21, 2012, 09:52:04 AM » |
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Not sure of the model, but know it was an Easton. He looked at getting new bearings the first time he was in Salida but seem his model takes a non-standard size, or something, and they didn't have it in stock.
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Reply #1159 on: June 21, 2012, 10:22:11 AM
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« Reply #1159 on: June 21, 2012, 10:22:11 AM » |
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Just got back from a ride up north of Steamboat. Passed Mark Farnsworth on the way out and the other guys I was riding with mentioned "that he looked like he'd been ridden hard and put away wet"! I had to chuckle at the comment cause MF was clearly smiling as we rode by. It was a nice morning in the 'boat though so that helps. Although it's getting upwards of 90 degrees today so that could put the hurt on some riders late in the day.
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