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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1820 on: July 12, 2013, 01:38:11 PM
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« Reply #1820 on: July 12, 2013, 01:38:11 PM »

Hi everybody!

I am sitting at the airport and waiting for my flight back to Germany. Unfortunately I was not able to make any Call In. I don't know why. Just a view words from my side about the race.
I haven't won the race, but I guess I get the crown for the most missing turns and the most additional miles. Overall 95 miles and about 7500 feet of climbing.
The second crown I get for all the lost or demaged items with an overall value of $1300.
Two sunglasses, my GoPro Hero 3 camera and 500 feet before I hit the pavement in Pie Town I rolled over my smartphone.
For me the race was the mental overkill. There was nearly no day I not thought about to quit. Every day was a fight and filled with so much suffering. New Mexico turned into a disaster for me. A lot of stuff went wrong. I have a lot of to tell. I am gonna write something for the cordillera. I promise. But one thing is for sure: I'll never never come back!!
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1821 on: July 12, 2013, 01:45:27 PM
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« Reply #1821 on: July 12, 2013, 01:45:27 PM »


...
 But one thing is for sure: I'll never never come back!!

They always say this for a week or so after the race  Wink
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1822 on: July 12, 2013, 01:53:52 PM
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« Reply #1822 on: July 12, 2013, 01:53:52 PM »

I would prefer shorter cutoffs for the females, aber the males should make their cutoffs around knee length.
Daisy and Biff?
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1823 on: July 12, 2013, 02:56:36 PM
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« Reply #1823 on: July 12, 2013, 02:56:36 PM »

They always say this for a week or so after the race  Wink

Ever heard the saying "never say never" Huh?  He may never be back, but many people that say that usually end up coming back.
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1824 on: July 12, 2013, 03:10:16 PM
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« Reply #1824 on: July 12, 2013, 03:10:16 PM »

Billy Rice has finished! What an incredible achievement.
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1825 on: July 12, 2013, 03:12:25 PM
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« Reply #1825 on: July 12, 2013, 03:12:25 PM »

HTF did you miss this? Must not have made the cutoff.
Now that's funny, I don't care who you are.
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1826 on: July 12, 2013, 04:00:28 PM
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« Reply #1826 on: July 12, 2013, 04:00:28 PM »

Not to change the subject but has Dennis Lowen gone into the camping mode in order to get the "Red Lantern" or did he just forget to hit Spot?
Roger Payne and his wife were waiting at the finish line and had a bet on the time Dennis would finish. Roger won as Dennis finished at 5:46 p.m., on 7-10-2013.  Roger had him hit his spot but apparently it didn't register. Roger took pictures on Dennis'  camera and Roger's wife took a picture too on her camera. Roger then hauled him to El Paso, TX. He should be 59th position. I called Matthew this morning and informed him of this info.
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1827 on: July 12, 2013, 05:18:36 PM
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« Reply #1827 on: July 12, 2013, 05:18:36 PM »

Billy Rice has finished! What an incredible achievement.

I truly cannot get my mind around that one.  What was his total time?
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1828 on: July 12, 2013, 07:02:56 PM
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« Reply #1828 on: July 12, 2013, 07:02:56 PM »

Looks like 44 days and some seconds by the blue dots he sent
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1829 on: July 12, 2013, 07:10:34 PM
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« Reply #1829 on: July 12, 2013, 07:10:34 PM »

Looks like 44 days and some seconds by the blue dots he sent

Amazing!  Plenty of people fall across the line at 22 days and head home to recover.
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1830 on: July 12, 2013, 08:16:44 PM
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« Reply #1830 on: July 12, 2013, 08:16:44 PM »

Michael Komp called in with his finish call!
http://mtbcast.com/site2/category/td13/
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1831 on: July 12, 2013, 11:53:25 PM
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« Reply #1831 on: July 12, 2013, 11:53:25 PM »

MOOOOOOOOTS

Bazinga!

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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1832 on: July 13, 2013, 04:12:22 AM
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« Reply #1832 on: July 13, 2013, 04:12:22 AM »

Maybe I missed an earlier reference, but Eddy Clark's pics in Mountain Bike again capture the race atmosphere brilliantly.
http://www.mountainbike.com/mountainbikecom/featured-stories/flash-light
 
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1833 on: July 13, 2013, 05:53:08 AM
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« Reply #1833 on: July 13, 2013, 05:53:08 AM »

Regarding the photo here: http://www.mountainbike.com/mountainbikecom/featured-stories/going-solo

That seems a really odd quote: "While some Tour Divide racers ride with partners, others take on the course alone. First-time competitor Kerrin Walker of Windsor, England, finished in less than 20 days without any support."

(this isn't directed at KW, more about the first and last part of the quote)

Since when is this a 'team' event? And where does the support come in? I know that some folks end up riding with others along the way, and likely sticking with folks going a similar pace... but... headscratcher here. Again, the whole 'touring' vs. 'racing' thing comes up in my head.


I had a similar question about what appeared to be a father son 'team' that commented here. I thought the whole point was that folks were on solo ITTs, challenging the course as fast as possible. Seems that some folks premeditate riding with others. Even waiting for their slower counterparts. In case of injury / emergency - I totally get the idea of altering ones plans or pace to help out another human. I even get that you might well end up riding with others that share a similar pace.

This sort of goes completely counter to the spirit I've thought was key to these sorts of events.

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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1834 on: July 13, 2013, 06:27:23 AM
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« Reply #1834 on: July 13, 2013, 06:27:23 AM »

Regarding the photo here: http://www.mountainbike.com/mountainbikecom/featured-stories/going-solo

That seems a really odd quote: "While some Tour Divide racers ride with partners, others take on the course alone. First-time competitor Kerrin Walker of Windsor, England, finished in less than 20 days without any support."

(this isn't directed at KW, more about the first and last part of the quote)

Since when is this a 'team' event? And where does the support come in? I know that some folks end up riding with others along the way, and likely sticking with folks going a similar pace... but... headscratcher here. Again, the whole 'touring' vs. 'racing' thing comes up in my head.


I had a similar question about what appeared to be a father son 'team' that commented here. I thought the whole point was that folks were on solo ITTs, challenging the course as fast as possible. Seems that some folks premeditate riding with others. Even waiting for their slower counterparts. In case of injury / emergency - I totally get the idea of altering ones plans or pace to help out another human. I even get that you might well end up riding with others that share a similar pace.

This sort of goes completely counter to the spirit I've thought was key to these sorts of events.




As to the quote - journalists work quickly and on deadlines, so they don't always get all the details right.

Premeditated riding partners have existed since the beginning of the GDR.  Matthew rode with a partner his first try and I remember from Kent Peterson's write-up of his first run that there was a couple riding it together then (Brad and ?).

It does come back to the definition of the event, and the idea of how far an unofficial, non-organized race/tour/ITT can go in really setting hard rules.  The spirit and intent of the event is to ride the route as fast as you can without support.  It is harder to do that in the company of others, but as it is more likely to result in slowing the riders than making them faster, it becomes a personal issue. The real question is, I think, should the rules dictate the individual rider's experience of the event, or should the rules serve only to make sure that no rider will have an unfair advantage?
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1835 on: July 13, 2013, 07:02:44 AM
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« Reply #1835 on: July 13, 2013, 07:02:44 AM »

Overnight: Greg Andre-Barrett called in with his finish call!
http://mtbcast.com/site2/category/td13/
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1836 on: July 13, 2013, 07:27:11 AM
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« Reply #1836 on: July 13, 2013, 07:27:11 AM »

Tour Divide 2013 Day 29 True Ups!
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1837 on: July 13, 2013, 08:05:28 AM
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« Reply #1837 on: July 13, 2013, 08:05:28 AM »

Love that comment on  MTBCast about the Tour Divide "It's been brutal, but beautiful".   Pretty much sums it up.
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1838 on: July 13, 2013, 08:20:46 AM
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« Reply #1838 on: July 13, 2013, 08:20:46 AM »

As to the quote - journalists work quickly and on deadlines, so they don't always get all the details right.

Premeditated riding partners have existed since the beginning of the GDR.  Matthew rode with a partner his first try and I remember from Kent Peterson's write-up of his first run that there was a couple riding it together then (Brad and ?).

It does come back to the definition of the event, and the idea of how far an unofficial, non-organized race/tour/ITT can go in really setting hard rules.  The spirit and intent of the event is to ride the route as fast as you can without support.  It is harder to do that in the company of others, but as it is more likely to result in slowing the riders than making them faster, it becomes a personal issue. The real question is, I think, should the rules dictate the individual rider's experience of the event, or should the rules serve only to make sure that no rider will have an unfair advantage?

Umm haven't u seen ride the divide. Matthew rides with a partner most of the way (dude from Gettysburg, not pre meditated). His partner even waited for him in Colorado.

Can you guys just relax and shut up about the rules already. Start a new post or something.
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  Topic Name: TD`13 Race Discussion Reply #1839 on: July 13, 2013, 08:25:10 AM
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« Reply #1839 on: July 13, 2013, 08:25:10 AM »

On a pct thru hike there is a saying 'hike your own hike'. How about we just adopt the phrase 'ride your own ride'
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